Will the Panthers let the Leafs make the playoffs?
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Kamiccolo
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With some, no credit can ever be given. They could win the cup and I am sure some would find a way to say it’s not as valuable as usual because refs or something.
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The Atlantic sucks yet the 3rd place Leafs would be leading the Pacific division.....
LeafsNation75
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When Toronto had 105 points in 2018 they still finished 3rd in the Atlantic and had to start the playoffs on the road. Pittsburgh finished with 100 points and 2nd in the Metropolitan and had home ice in the first round. I don't remember anyone saying that wasn't fair to Toronto the way they are about Carolina today.
LeafsNation75
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What everyone forgets about 2017 is the Leafs finished tied with the same amount of points the Bruins had which was 95. Plus they had won the regular season series against them 4-0, however the Bruins got 3rd in the Atlantic and the Leafs were the #2 Wild Card since they had less ROW wins because that was the tiebreaker.
I actually remember a ton of Leafs fans saying it wasn't fair they had to play Boston. Then they said it again the next season. And now you are complaining about it now and have been complaining about it a lot.
Edit: and your next post is complaining about the year before because the tiebreaker the league has always used effected your team
LeafsNation75
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What I mean is I don't remember any Leafs fans starting a thread about it on here the way some Carolina fans complaining about how Toronto had less points (They are now 1 point ahead of Carolina) and they might miss the playoffs.
1 point behind with 2 games in hand. Lucky for leafs fans that they use the new playoff format. Back when it was the 3 division winners in each conference and then the next 5 teams made it based off records, the leafs would be in a real race with Carolina right now.
Luckily for them, they only have to battle with the perennial underachieving Panthers.
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97 points wouldn't have been enough to move on in the East last season. 98 points was the cut-off.
LeafsNation75
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It's still true that the tiebreaker was a factor and I only pointed that out since Toronto won all 4 games against Boston in the regular season that year.
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97 points would have been enough to get Columbus a playoff spot.
Hell, I think 96 points would have gotten them in because of the ROW tie-breaker.
LeafsNation75
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So if anything the Carolina fans should be upset with Bettman or the owners who wanted this Wild Card system. If the NHL made it where the top 4 teams in each division make the playoffs it would have been what they use to do until 1993.
Also it's not like Carolina didn't benefit from the 1-8 system when they happen to finish 1st in the Southeast Division, get the 3rd seed and still have less points than the #4 seed. In 2002 that happened when they finished with 91 points and Toronto had 100 points. That meant when they played Toronto in the Eastern Conference Final that year they had home ice advantage.
Of course the tie-breaker was a factor, they were tied. The Bruins had 3 more ROW which was the Tie-breaker. So they won the tiebreaker. Is this somehow unfair to the leafs that they followed the rule book?
I've seen you bring up this series from 18 years ago a bunch of times to try and make this point.
Did you realize that Carolina won EVERY game played in Toronto in that series?
LeafsNation75
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I just can't remember a time when any team wins all games in a regular season series, gets with the same amount of points and finishes behind them in the standings due to a tiebreaker. So your looking way to deep into what I'm saying.
LeafsNation75
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Yes I know Carolina won all the playoff games in Toronto that year. My point is after the first round of the playoffs under the old 1-8 system they shouldn't have had home ice anymore.
Best post I've seen on HF in the past 6 months was something along the lines of, "if the Leafs don't win two cups with this core they're a huge failure"
The usual suspects never fail to amaze.
They played a team in the second round who finished with less points then them.
The Leafs (3rd in the Atlantic with 70 points) would be first in the division if they were in the Pacific (ahead of the Canucks). Florida (currently 10th in the East) would have the first wildcard spot if they played in the West.
If we are talking about undeserving teams making the playoffs with garbage records it isn’t Atlantic teams we should be looking at.
LeafsNation75
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So when they played Toronto in the Conference Final they should have not had home ice due to having 9 less points than them in the regular season.
But they won every single game they played in Toronto so home-ice didn't matter
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I'll admit the current playoff format is wonky.
But the leafs have had both sides of it.
They had no reason playing boston last two years both teams finished really high in the standings.
Now that it favours the leafs its outrageous ofc. It is what it is and you move on. It's one thing for the leafs to reap all the rewards from it but that's clearly not the case. Finish strong and make the playoff everyone's had shit to deal with. Theres still a lot of games left.
But the leafs have had both sides of it.
They had no reason playing boston last two years both teams finished really high in the standings.
Now that it favours the leafs its outrageous ofc. It is what it is and you move on. It's one thing for the leafs to reap all the rewards from it but that's clearly not the case. Finish strong and make the playoff everyone's had shit to deal with. Theres still a lot of games left.
LeafsNation75
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Since Toronto won their previous 2 series that year with home ice maybe that would have made a difference.
Again. They lost all of there home games in that series. I'm not sure giving them another would have helped them. They scored 6 goals in a 6 game series. 2 goals total at home. I don't think you should be blaming home-ice.
Seriously lol. If only the Leafs were lucky to play in a division like the Pacific.
Leafs could end up with 100+ points and still not even get close to home ice advantage.
They have been playing at a 110 point pace since Keefe was hired in Game 23.
