Will the Great 8 score 895?

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  1. RorschachWJK

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    It's a tall order and requires all the stars to align perfectly, i.e. no major injuries. A lockout might already be enough to stop it from happening.

    But great stuff, not at all nerdy :thumbu:
     
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    With no two line pass rule, defenseman position themselves further back in the neutral zone. I don't think it's a given that he'd have dramatically more breakaways. Player are probably less likely to find themselves with a half-sheet of open ice.

    It's almost as if sports change over time.
     
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    Ovechkin seems a like a guy who will play +40, I think it's very possible if there's no big injuries or a lockout.
     
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    Exact, can’t compare era, hockey changed a lot since then

    Goalies ability, speed of the game, size, that’s why hockey IQ is so important now, players have to react rapidly to make plays,

    To be able to succeed now, shows how skilled they are

    We as fans have to look at the whole thing and not just stats
     
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    I think what is not being represented here is how long Backstrom plays with him. He and Ovi had a really great connection and I think if Backstrom's career is interrupted we'll see Ovi's goals drop a bit
     
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    Not a chance.
    He'll be 34 years old this season.
     
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    Ovechkin strikes me as the type of player who will want to go for the record.

    Also - i was EXTREMELY impressed by his last 2 seasons. I expected him to slowly decline - or maybe even phone it in after the cup and have a slower season - but he had a fantastic season and played amazing in the playoffs again (round 1 loss though). It seems like he still has a bit left in the tank.

    I say he break the record
     
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    Your own post completely destroys your argument. I highlighted two phrases (that you said) for you that when paired together should open your eyes. Try again.
     
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    OvEcHkIn NeEdS tO ScOrE 90 GoALs

    Ovechkin may not hit Gretzky’s numbers, but could possibly still have the most 50+ goal seasons in history. Maybe that should tell you something about this era.
     
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    Looked elite against Ovechkin?? He was OVER a PPG. While having to deal with Slavin who is an elite shutdown d-man.
     
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    Why is it ridiculous? He's close enough to it to have a realistic chance at breaking it.

    And if he plays until he's 42-45? Selanne played until he was like 43 and Ovechkin is a lot less injury prone than he was. He's built like a tank, if he wants the record he'll get it.
     
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    I think its pretty remarkable that we are having this discussion and there is now a realistic possibility he/somebody will break Gretzky's goals record.
     
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    I think you gravely underestimate how quickly the drop off can be from their 30s to their 40s no matter how good of a shape they are in.
     
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    With a lockout likely and with his body being more susceptible to injury as he ages, Ovechkin will easily miss more games in the future and his gpg will drop.
    I just don't see it. Tank or not, mother nature always wins. It happens to everyone.
     
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    Pairing together
    • Gretzky scored 92 goals (in 1981-82)
    • Gretzky twice scored in the 70s (71 in 1982-83, 73 in 1984-85)
    ...opens eyes to see what exactly?
     
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    Because he is 34 and will have to keep up his current pace up until close to 40 and that's not going happen that's not realistic and I think you know that
     
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    I mean there's one persistent poster right now doing this very thing, skinnyFAT whatever. He's basically every single false Ovechkin generality wrapped into one.
     
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    The bolded revelation just absolutely blew my mind. I can't believe Ovechkin is the only player in the NHL that gets older on an annual basis.
     
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    Look I found another one.
     
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    Ovechkin has shown that he can play and get the most out of multiple C's. Kuznetsov's best seasons are with Ovechkin. I mean sure, Backstrom definitely helps him but Ovechkin has helped Backy just as much.
     
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    [MOD] Ovechkin was by far the best player in that series and other than MacKinnon, the entire first round.
     
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    I think someone was confused when you said in the 70's twice thinking the 1970's? Other then that I can't see what they mean either and I agree with you.
     
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    Didn't Selanne score something like 100 goals across his age 35 and 36 seasons?

    It happens differently for everyone; mother nature will eventually beat him, but he just might get 237 more goals before it does.

    Put another way, if he scores at Selanne's mid-30s rate for the next three seasons, he needs around 100 goals between ages 37 and retirement. That's not too crazy.
     
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    If or When he gets to 800, I think the entire league is going to want him to get 895.

    Even Crosby, and Malkin. Even Gretzky himself. Entirety of Russia.


    Having OV break a ridiculous record like that, would greatly legitimize this era in history.
     

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