Dreger: Will Duchene move if the Sens go full rebuild?

[The Kingslayer]

Hahaha. To top things off, they gave Colorado their first rounder next year meaning a good damn shot at Hughes. Sakic made out like a bandit which makes no ****ing sense. Dorian needs to go, same as Melnyk.

They have the choice to keep it this year if its top 10 or defer it to next year where it wont be protected. They can make it simple by finishing 11th this year but I dunno if that's happening.

 

[ThePsychicSaw]

trade for players with high cap hits and low real dollars paid

Orpik saves you a mil or 2 right?

 

[SensFactor]

Absolutely he stays..core will be Hoff, Stone, Duchene, Dzingel, Draisaitl once karlsson is traded

 

[613Leafer]

Sens should be trying to keep Duchene I think. His trade value is down, but he can still be a good solid secondary piece on a contending team most likely.

Selling Karlsson + Brassard + a few other pieces, drafting presumably in the top 5 this upcoming summer, and a half-decent shot at a top 3 pick, and then a bit more restructuring next season (whcih will also be a rough year), and after that they could potentially start climbing as a good young team. Goaltending is definitely a major question mark though, and if that isn't fixed, they'll remain near the bottom longer.

 

[swiftwin]

The Sens won't rebuild. That implies that there will be an attempt to build it back up, which won't happen as long as Melnyk is the owner.

 

[SensFactor]

Sens should be trying to keep Duchene I think. His trade value is down, but he can still be a good solid secondary piece on a contending team most likely.

Selling Karlsson + Brassard + a few other pieces, drafting presumably in the top 5 this upcoming summer, and a half-decent shot at a top 3 pick, and then a bit more restructuring next season (whcih will also be a rough year), and after that they could potentially start climbing as a good young team. Goaltending is definitely a major question mark though, and if that isn't fixed, they'll remain near the bottom longer.

Duchene had been the Sens best player for over a month. He's playing his best hockey of the season

 

[613Leafer]

Duchene had been the Sens best player for over a month. He's playing his best hockey of the season

Players have good months. You shouldn't extrapolate the best stretches of their season just like you shouldn't extrapolate the worst stretches.

He has 38 points in 60 games (52 point pace), and had 41 points last season. Even historically, his career PPG pace over 82 games is 59 points, which unless you're a Selke candidate (he isn't), would put someone in the category of good solid secondary piece on a contending team (which is what I called him).

Really not sure what you're trying to contest here.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Unbelievable that we even have to have this discussion. What a pile of shit this organization has become.

 

[Asinine]

Duchene had been the Sens best player for over a month. He's playing his best hockey of the season

And next month he'll probably go back to being a ghost. This is what Duchene is. He's not a player you win with.

Watch, he's eventually going to state how he wants to win with Ottawa because he's content with playing so close to home and actually cares more about how he does individually rather than how the team does.

 

[Cynick]

And next month he'll probably go back to being a ghost. This is what Duchene is. He's not a player you win with.

Watch, he's eventually going to state how he wants to win with Ottawa because he's content with playing so close to home and actually cares more about how he does individually rather than how the team does.

We ain't winning with him or without him so it's something of a mute point.

 

[Newsworthy]

Probably can't deal Duchene unless he requests a trade.

 

[Hmmm]

Can't see him staying, he want out here in CO because we weren't winning enough for him

 

[robbieberns]

Carolina fan here, one who is curious as to what Ottawa fans would want in return.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Carolina fan here, one who is curious as to what Ottawa fans would want in return.

1st(can make it top 10 protected)+Bean+ mid-low level player or prospect

 

[robbieberns]

1st(can make it top 10 protected)+Bean+ mid-low level player or prospect

We’ve got ourselves a deal

 

[TMLeafs17]

This is what happens when you’re a cry baby ***** Duchene...

 

[Fogelhund]

Depends on how loud Duchene plays the music in the dressing room.

 

[Legion34]

How does Ottawa reach the cap floor if they trade every player with significant AAV?

Bobby ryan

 

[Weast]

Man you can't even blame the guy. He asked for a trade to a contender which I think he deserved because it looked like the Avs had to rebuild for another few years, and then the team he gets traded to is absolutely imploding. He never cried or bitched about his situation and while he may have given up on the team last year he still played to the best he could. I hope once he leaves Ottawa he goes to a playoff contender he deserves

 

[GKJ]

Just trade Duchene. He doesn't want to do this again. You traded for him because he doesn't want to do this again.

Also amazing that since that trade they've gone from feeling like they are contenders to blowing the whole thing up.

I don't know if they'd want to do this and it would depend on the final standings, but could Ottawa have a top 10 pick, trade down, and then flip it to Colorado? Even if they can't, it might be worth it for them if someone offers you next year's 1st round pick to make a big move up.

 

[sxvnert]

Sens should gut the entire team for prospects and picks. The amount of assets they'll receive will ensure a quick rebuild.

 

[Bender]

Just trade Duchene. He doesn't want to do this again. You traded for him because he doesn't want to do this again.

Also amazing that since that trade they've gone from feeling like they are contenders to blowing the whole thing up.

I don't know if they'd want to do this and it would depend on the final standings, but could Ottawa have a top 10 pick, trade down, and then flip it to Colorado? Even if they can't, it might be worth it for them if someone offers you next year's 1st round pick to make a big move up.

No. It's surprising how many people aren't getting this.

The Senators 2018 pick will belong to Ottawa IF it's in the top 10 unless they choose to give it to Colorado. If the pick is later than 10, it automatically belongs to the Avs.

They don't get to trade down and give a different pick that previously belonged to another team to the Avs...that's not part of what they traded.

If they choose to keep the Top-10 2018 pick, then the 2019 pick is automatically transferred to Colorado.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Maybe there's other info out there, or I'm missing something, but all this tweet says is that Murray Pam "has to now wonder" ..........

 

[72hockey guy]

It was a post from a fellow Isles fan on HF Isles...

ifit would make sense if the trade was a first at Ottawa's option.

ive seen that several times where a team has acquired a pick in a certain round to fulfill a prior trade requirement. the first round may be different however since it is the first round

 

[72hockey guy]

Yeah, definitely not valid.

i know that you can do that in other rounds Ive seen it several times. foppberg. i just dont know if round one is different. it might be and seems likely, but it has happened in other rounds