Rumor: Wild will not buy-out Dubnyk, looking to trade him; Greenway may also be moved

[rt]

Ah, right. Kahkonen.

 

[TT1]

Take out Domi, Dumba, Allen and Dubnyk, and replace Mete with something useful, and I think it's a good base for a deal.

i prefer the fleece job proposal

we'll even retain 50% on Allen!!

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

His value in picks is a mid to late 1st rounder.

Not gonna lie, wasn't expecting that price but looking at his resume, can see why it's that high to be open to moving him. Mid 1st seems high but guess a 2nd + prospect isn't workable?

Honestly, your guess is as good as mine when it comes to Greenway.

In theory we don't need defense because on top of our current top 4, Guerin wants to bring Soucy back, who can either be the second pairing RD or the third pairing LD. After that I would bet Addison takes over. We also have Belpedio too who can play either side.

My preference would be to use him in a package for a top 6 center, trade him for a (late) 1st rounder, or swap him for a right handed player of the same caliber (like Roslovic would probably be the prototypical target in that deal).

But Guerin seems to just be getting players he thinks can make a difference. So if he likes a LW he might do the deal just to get a fresh face.

You familiar with Hutsko? RW with very similar NCAA production to Greenway, he's 21 years old right now, 22 in February. He's definitely smaller at 5'9, 175lbs but has the motor, skill and compete to be a similar middle 6 winger, ideally a really solid 2-way 3rd liner. Likely gets a year or two in AHL so he could get a look when some of the older vets are gone and the team/forwards are more in their mid 20's? Seems Guerin is going that way with solid vets on D.
Hasn't been signed yet but expiry date isn't until Aug 2021. Would add a pick to make up for current NHL resume of Greenway.

Greenway: (NCAA)

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Hutsko: (NCAA)

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Hutsko seems to be a better goal scorer and Greenway the better playmaker.

 

[caley]

What’s wrong with Greenway?

Not to get too political here, and I'm sure it's not the reason, but if Guerin deals Greenway, Dumba and almost certainly doesn't re-sign JT Brown, the optics of trading/not re-signing ALL of your Black players during this offseason sure don't look good.

 

[AKL]

Not gonna lie, wasn't expecting that price but looking at his resume, can see why it's that high to be open to moving him. Mid 1st seems high but guess a 2nd + prospect isn't workable?



You familiar with Hutsko? RW with very similar NCAA production to Greenway, he's 21 years old right now, 22 in February. He's definitely smaller at 5'9, 175lbs but has the motor, skill and compete to be a similar middle 6 winger, ideally a really solid 2-way 3rd liner. Likely gets a year or two in AHL so he could get a look when some of the older vets are gone and the team/forwards are more in their mid 20's? Seems Guerin is going that way with solid vets on D.
Hasn't been signed yet but expiry date isn't until Aug 2021.

Greenway: (NCAA)

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Hutsko: (NCAA)

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Hutsko seems to be a better goal scorer and Greenway the better playmaker.

I watched him all season with Boldy at BC. I like him, but not enough to do this deal.

 

[AKL]

Not to get too political here, and I'm sure it's not the reason, but if Guerin deals Greenway, Dumba and almost certainly doesn't re-sign JT Brown, the optics of trading/not re-signing ALL of your Black players during this offseason sure don't look good.

f*** off

Dumba isn't even black

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Where would he play though? He’s another LW.

Somewhere!

 

[2Pair]

Not gonna lie, wasn't expecting that price but looking at his resume, can see why it's that high to be open to moving him. Mid 1st seems high but guess a 2nd + prospect isn't workable?



You familiar with Hutsko? RW with very similar NCAA production to Greenway, he's 21 years old right now, 22 in February. He's definitely smaller at 5'9, 175lbs but has the motor, skill and compete to be a similar middle 6 winger, ideally a really solid 2-way 3rd liner. Likely gets a year or two in AHL so he could get a look when some of the older vets are gone and the team/forwards are more in their mid 20's? Seems Guerin is going that way with solid vets on D.
Hasn't been signed yet but expiry date isn't until Aug 2021. Would add a pick to make up for current NHL resume of Greenway.

Greenway: (NCAA)

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Hutsko: (NCAA)

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Hutsko seems to be a better goal scorer and Greenway the better playmaker.

Hutsko will have to improve quite a bit to ever play in the NHL

 

[caley]

f*** off

Dumba isn't even black

My bad on Dumba's ethnicity, but it's still bad optics.

 

[AKL]

My bad on Dumba's ethnicity, but it's still bad optics.

It's only "bad optics" because clowns like you choose to see it that way. This is an embarrassing message to send. Race and ethnicity has nothing to do with any of it, and you know that, and pointing it out anyways does no one any good.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Hutsko will have to improve quite a bit to ever play in the NHL

No doubt but this year was a great uptick after a down year in '18-19.
He has the drive to make it, may take him another two years.
Battled back from a couple freak accidents and some of the following stats has me excited for his senior year at BC.

-Finished the season seventh in the nation in goals per game with 19 tallies in 30 games, those 19 tied for team lead.
-Led the team in shots on goal per game (3.7) and was +17 for the year
-Ranked 11th in Hockey East in scoring with at least one point in all but four games
-Put together a career-high 12-game point streak from the season opener to the January 4 win over Vermont and also -tallied a seven-game point streak during the second half
-Collected seven multi-point performances

Greenway has a great chance at being a 2nd line power forward, wouldn't be in a rush to move him.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Take out Domi, Dumba, Allen and Dubnyk, and replace Mete with something useful, and I think it's a good base for a deal.

Alright, what you need for le gros bonhomme Greenway ?

 

[AKL]

Alright, what you need for le gros bonhomme Greenway ?

1 for 1, my guess would be a similar player that plays RW or C. I think Jack Roslovic is an excellent example of the type of player we'd be looking for. Alternatively Guerin could use him in a package for a top 6 center. I don't think he gets traded for a draft pick, but I think a late 1st would be the price if he was.

 

[sisseton]

Would Minnesota want to do something around Dubnyk and Rask for Jones+?

Make that + Tomas Hertl then we can start talking.

 

[saywut]

Not gonna lie, wasn't expecting that price but looking at his resume, can see why it's that high to be open to moving him. Mid 1st seems high but guess a 2nd + prospect isn't workable?

I think if the idea is a draft pick, we're better off trading Foligno, unless Greenway could return a 1st. I guess if Guerin likes Borgstrom something could be workable there but I'd have his value more in line with Donato.

Would it make sense for the wild to add a futures package to Dubnyk to get Kuemper?

I think Raanta makes more sense for us.

 

[rt]

I think if the idea is a draft pick, we're better off trading Foligno, unless Greenway could return a 1st. I guess if Guerin likes Borgstrom something could be workable there but I'd have his value more in line with Donato.



I think Raanta makes more sense for us.

Would you add a 2021 2nd to Dubnyk to get Raanta?

 

[One Winged Angel]

What are your lines (with Lafreniere)?

the 3LW’s will be Kreider (KZB line), Panarin (Strome/?) and Lafreniere, I assume.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Once upon a time at BU, Quinn liked him at center. The Wild tried it a few times and it didn't really work, but maybe he knows something we don't?

That would help if he can play center, otherwise he’s looking like a 4LW, which wouldn’t make sense, especially if some of the asking prices listed are actually what Guerin would want.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Somewhere!

Come on, SBOB. You’re supposed to waive your magic wand and know these things.

 

[AKL]

the 3LW’s will be Kreider (KZB line), Panarin (Strome/?) and Lafreniere, I assume.

I asked because depending on your 2/3 RW he could play right side.

 

[saywut]

Would you add a 2021 2nd to Dubnyk to get Raanta?

I would, yes. We have Pitts 1st in 2021, no issues moving that 2nd.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

1 for 1, my guess would be a similar player that plays RW or C. I think Jack Roslovic is an excellent example of the type of player we'd be looking for. Alternatively Guerin could use him in a package for a top 6 center. I don't think he gets traded for a draft pick, but I think a late 1st would be the price if he was.

Damn,so no Poehling, 2nd or Domi for Greenway+ ?

What about Poehling and a 2nd ?

Greenway should get a good return

 

[2Pair]

Would you add a 2021 2nd to Dubnyk to get Raanta?

Only if the Wild have an important need for Dubnyk's $4M in cap space

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I think if the idea is a draft pick, we're better off trading Foligno, unless Greenway could return a 1st. I guess if Guerin likes Borgstrom something could be workable there but I'd have his value more in line with Donato.



I think Raanta makes more sense for us.

Borgstrom would be more available if our C depth wasn't so barren.

Barkov (1C)
Wallmark (3/4C)
Acciari (4C/middle 6 W in a pinch)
Borgstrom (3C, maybe tried at 2C this year)
Luostarinen (projects as bottom 6C)

Haula is a free agent, could be re-signed to a 1-2 yr deal to build his value or be a stopgap for us after tons of injury time.
No worries, no deal to be made here.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Would you add a 2021 2nd to Dubnyk to get Raanta?

Prior to the Staal trade, where I thought we were a couple of shrewd moves away from maybe being a surprise fringe contender, it would've been more likely. Now, with our current center situation, I'm not sure what a goalie upgrade will accomplish.