Who should stay, who should go.

[CanadianSniper]

@hatcher trolling as usual.

I assume he didn’t know you can see who voted for which each option.

Literally voted for every bad player. I’ll be sure to remember this for the next time you say you don’t troll.

Adding Hatch to the ignore list was one of the best decisions made.

 

[Striiker]

Adding Hatch to the ignore list was one of the best decisions made.

He voted to keep:
Voracek (who he's said is garbage and needs to be traded)
Simmonds
Filppula
Read
Lehtera
Weise
Weal
Leier
Raffl
MacDonald
Manning
Gudas
Elliott
Neuvirth
Mrazek

Pathetic trolling.

 

[Flukeshot]

I am sure my votes were about par with the rest. I would trad Simmonds just because I don't want to risk his value slipping and I don't want to resign him too long term high cap, which he deserves, and will get.

I also was alright with Read on the 4th line if he wanted to come back for 4th line money.

 

[hatcher]

@hatcher trolling as usual.

I assume he didn’t know you can see who voted for which each option.

Literally voted for every bad player. I’ll be sure to remember this for the next time you say you don’t troll.

I don't troll. I want the whole team changed. All the young guys stay the rest gone. Coach gone to but that won't change much.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Keep
G
Jake
Coots
Konecny
Patrick
Lindblom
Laughton
Raffl (though he teeters very, very dangerously on the "indifferent" line)
Provorov
Ghost
Sanheim

Indifferent
Simmer (still love him but don't want to risk further decline)
Weal
Leier
Gudas
Elliott
Neuvy

Rest can all **** off.

 

[hatcher]

Guys enjoy your summer and forget about the garbage we watched all year. I was f***ing with you guys on this poll lol. Gotta loosen up people.

 

[Striiker]

I don't troll. I want the whole team changed. All the young guys stay the rest gone. Coach gone to but that won't change much.

You just got caught...

You voted to keep Filppula, Weise, Lehtera, MacDonald, etc and to get rid of Couturier, Ghost, Konecny, Patrick, Sanheim, Lindblom.

 

[Fire Tortorella]

Giroux
Couturier
Voracek
Konecny
Simmonds*
Patrick
Read
Laughton
Lindblom
Raffl
Provorov
MacDonald
Gostisbehere
Sanheim
Gudas*
Neuvirth

*Would move if the right deal came along.

Some of the more unpopular opinions:

Read - Thought the end of the season and playoffs showed that he should have been on the 4th line all year. Wouldn't mind bringing him back as the 13th/14th forward.
MacDonald - Use him as a bottom pairing D and he's OK. We all know about the contract, but I could live with him as the 6th D next year.

Giroux - Couturier - TK
XXX - Patrick - Voracek
Lindblom - XXX - Simmonds
XXX - Laughton - Raffl

Provorov - Ghost
Sanheim - Gudas
XXX - MacDonald

Neuvy/XXX
XXX/Neuvy
Stolarz/Lyon
Hart

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Also, couldn't help but notice that Hagg is missing from the poll, not that he'd get many votes.

 

[Hiesenberg]

If you give Hakstol even 1 bad player, he'll play them to death and bench the more talented player. Adds/Subtracts are only as good as the coach.

 

[hatcher]

You just got caught...

You voted to keep Filppula, Weise, Lehtera, MacDonald, etc and to get rid of Couturier, Ghost, Konecny, Patrick, Sanheim, Lindblom.

I love coots now and you know that. Want g,v, Simmonds gone forsure. Keep the kids and coots and the rest and the coach can f*** off.

 

[hatcher]

You just got caught...

You voted to keep Filppula, Weise, Lehtera, MacDonald, etc and to get rid of Couturier, Ghost, Konecny, Patrick, Sanheim, Lindblom.

I might have some players but I wouldn't keep garbage over g,v even though I want them changed. Relax man it's summer time. f*** the flyers till next year.

 

[Rich Nixon]

I liked Gudas until this season, became indifferent up until today, and now I never want to see him again.

 

[Winston Wolf]

You just got caught...

You voted to keep Filppula, Weise, Lehtera, MacDonald, etc and to get rid of Couturier, Ghost, Konecny, Patrick, Sanheim, Lindblom.

Occam's razor. He could be trolling; however, the obvious answer is illiteracy and he thought the poll said something else.

 

[hatcher]

Occam's razor. He could be trolling; however, the obvious answer is illiteracy and he thought the poll said something else.

Lol you guys get to serious over these losers. It'll get better guys in 5 to 7 years.

 

[Magua]

I'm not going to shit on Gudas and judge his place on this team b/c of 1 awful game -- and a slight down year for him. He can be better and has been and could be again. That's how rash mistakes are made. He's certainly not immovable though depending.

That said, if he's moved just know that it's so MacDonald and Hagg can play a lot of minutes on the right side presumably. MacDonald is a top pair d-man on this team again, after the wonderful Provorov-Ghost pairing half the year. If this playoffs gave us anything, it's the coaches going into camp looking at MacDonald as a star 1st pair d-man and Ghost becoming a 3rd pairing d-man again. Huzzah. That wasn't a celebratory "huzzah." That's the sound I made vomiting on my laptop.

 

[Chinatown88]

That feel when you get trigger happy and thought the poll said who should go. Thank goodness I could change it.

 

[madlee]

According to the buyout calculator on capfriendly if we buy out lehtera thism summer we would be on the hook for 1.6 million cap hit for the next 2 years rather than his 5 million for next year. I would totally be down for that.

According to capfriendly the following is expiring:

5,000,000 - Filppula
3,625,000 - Read
1,000,000 - Oduya
0,975,000 - Manning
2,000,000 - Mrazek
1,500,000 - Umberger

14,100,000 in space opening up...


That leaves:

Giroux
Voracek
Lehtera
Couturier
Simmonds
Weise
Raffl
Weal
Laughton
Patrick
Lindblom
Konecny
Leier

MacDonald
Gostisbehere
Gudas
Hagg
Provorov
Sanheim

Elliot
Neuvirth

In regards to bad contracts, I would consider the following to be the ones the team would love to move, but will be unlikely able to:

Voracek
Lehtera
Weise
Raffl
MacDonald

The following will be prime trade bait (yes, I know a lot of people here do not like these guys, but they probably are desirable to other teams):

Simmonds
Weal
Gudas

 

[CanadianSniper]

Also, couldn't help but notice that Hagg is missing from the poll, not that he'd get many votes.

Dang, I was bound to miss someone lol

 

[Rich Nixon]

In regards to bad contracts, I would consider the following to be the ones the team would love to move, but will be unlikely able to:

Voracek
Lehtera
Weise
Raffl
MacDonald

The following will be prime trade bait (yes, I know a lot of people here do not like these guys, but they probably are desirable to other teams):

Simmonds
Weal
Gudas

Um...? What's the end game here, to be $35 million under the cap? I don't think they're in a rush to move Voracek, he of 85 points, and if they were it wouldn't be because of cost. And if they did it wouldn't be hard to find a taker.

 

[Adtar02]

According to capfriendly the following is expiring:

5,000,000 - Filppula
3,625,000 - Read
1,000,000 - Oduya
0,975,000 - Manning
2,000,000 - Mrazek
1,500,000 - Umberger

14,100,000 in space opening up...


That leaves:

Giroux
Voracek
Lehtera
Couturier
Simmonds
Weise
Raffl
Weal
Laughton
Patrick
Lindblom
Konecny
Leier

MacDonald
Gostisbehere
Gudas
Hagg
Provorov
Sanheim

Elliot
Neuvirth

In regards to bad contracts, I would consider the following to be the ones the team would love to move, but will be unlikely able to:

Voracek
Lehtera
Weise
Raffl
MacDonald

The following will be prime trade bait (yes, I know a lot of people here do not like these guys, but they probably are desirable to other teams):

Simmonds
Weal
Gudas

Don’t think voracek is a bad contract but I could see hexy listening to offers. Not shopping or should be moved but I can see him listening.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Dang, I was bound to miss someone lol

No worries. No one else mentioned him or noticed so it's not like anyone was gonna vote for him

 

[flyguy]

Dang, I was bound to miss someone lol

You also forgot Johnny Oduya

 

[Hurricane28]

Kept 12 guys.

Only one I wasn't sure about was Voracek.

I would be okay if he was moved.

 

[deadhead]

Ghost - Provorov were good for about two months, then they started spring leaks defensively as teams adjusted.
I could live with Provorov - MacDonald as a placeholder for Myers
Morin - Ghost
Sanheim - Gudas/Hagg as a place holder for Friedman or another RHD
Unfortunately, Hogberg is LH.

This coming season is going to be a transition year with many scrubs exiting, some young players coming up.
But the rebuild won't be finished until 2019-20.

Which is why I'd be happy to trade Voracek and Simmonds, pick up a young RW and some draft picks, then wheel and deal some of those picks for more young bottom six forwards and maybe put a package together for a young RHD.