Who should be our Game 1 Goalie?

[FlaPanthers11]

Rebounds count for shots against, so so if you give more rebounds you are increasing the number of shots. It's self feeding. If you take out the rebound from the shot total, then the correlation all but disappear.

Rebounds and goals from rebounds cut down on shot distance and goal allowed distance.

Which is a fair point. It’s sort of a chicken or the egg scenario which is hard to isolate. I could argue that an increase in shot quantity and quality faced in the first place leads to Bob allowing more rebounds.

Either way, when taking shots against per 60 and subtracting rebounds attempts against per 60, Bob ranks 21st of 49 while Driedger ranks 35th. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Driedger has had the better defense in front of him independent of any direct effect from the goalies themselves. Again, I chalk that up to random chance in a small sample and I think it helps explain away some (not all) of the gap in their numbers. It’s more than fair for you to interpret it however you do as well. Unfortunately, isolated goalie stats are very challenging with the data we currently have.

 

[Chaos2k7]

Really? Until that Tampa series a couple of ago, he had a bad reputation as a playoff goaltender.

This is a better team than he ever had in Cbus. But choking and money may neither be correct. Cbus fans felt he was good.

 

[I am not exposed]

This is a better team than he ever had in Cbus. But choking and money may neither be correct. Cbus fans felt he was good.

Just because Vid said so?

The general consensus was that Bob choked in the playoffs. Not saying it is necessarily right, but that was the popular take by broadcasters, pundits, hockey board discussions etc. That Tampa series was the first time people started praising his playoff performance. Before that series he had an overall bad reputation in the playoffs.

 

[Chaos2k7]

Just because Vid said so?

The general consensus was that Bob choked in the playoffs. Not saying it is necessarily right, but that was the popular take by broadcasters, pundits, hockey board discussions etc. That Tampa series was the first time people started praising his playoff performance. Before that series he had an overall bad reputation in the playoffs.

Yep I would trust a fan that watched his entire CBus career over some pundits etc.

We can all agree how often those same types of sources are correct about the Panthers lol.

 

[I am not exposed]

Yep I would trust a fan that watched his entire CBus career over some pundits etc.

We can all agree how often those same types of sources are correct about the Panthers lol.

I mean that's opening up a can of worms considering some of the comments made from fans lol. Even of ones own team. Just look at this Panther board, and how the opinions vary.

 

[Chaos2k7]

I mean that's opening up a can of worms considering some of the comments made from fans lol. Even of ones own team. Just look at this Panther board, and how the opinions vary.

No doubt. We will have to judge for ourselves. Luckily we will get the opportunity quickly.

 

[Dr Beinfest]

It’s Bob’s net. No reason in not giving him the call, given Driedger is not exactly hot right now either. Bob’s gotta be here next season, so continue to show him respect. If Driedger gets hot, there’s no offense in going with the best goalie and I’m sure Bob knows that.

 

[CursedCats]

Bob made his case tonight. Good for him. Lets hope he gets on a roll.

 

[FlaPanthers11]

Bob made his case tonight. Good for him. Lets hope he gets on a roll.

It's a lock at this point regardless of what Judge does Monday. Bob is starting game 1 with a short leash.

Hopefully the Bob detractors watched both Bob and Vasi tonight,

 

[Chessarmy]

Bob looked excellent tonight. Overall, he has not had a good season (again) - but maybe he can channel his CBJ superpowers against Tampa again and shut the door. Either way, if he fails we at least have Driedger as an option. But I think Bob deserves the benefit of the doubt for game 1, let's see what he can do.

 

[Dr Beinfest]

Maybe this whole time Bob’s MO has been playoffs self preservation because he’s already got his bread?
I like that narrative.

 

[5 Hole]

I’ll be honest- if Bob gets us to round 2, it’s worth the 10 mil. I’m rooting for him.

 

[Mase]

I’ll be honest- if Bob gets us to round 2, it’s worth the 10 mil. I’m rooting for him.

Agreed.

Judge looked really happy for him when they came together at the end of the game. They looked like they had a "moment", lol.

We need Bob to be that guy, and I'm more than sure he knows that. He looked like that guy tonight, and what happens on Monday will go a long way towards planting the seeds of confidence in his teammates, and, just as importantly, the fans, imo.

If he does this again on Monday, and then, more importantly, in game one, then it might be not just The Bolts worst nightmare, the the rest of the league, as well. Nothing more dangerous in a Cup run than a hot goalie, it changes EVERYTHING.

 

[radkison]

Bob locked up the game 1 start with his performance tonight

Maybe, just maybe, he has something unique that makes him play like a solid goalie against the bolts

 

[pb1300]

My 2 major keys to the series:

1. Win the special teams battle
2. Bob plays well.

Man if Bob gives us just good goaltending against the Bolts, we win the series. Yes, we are going against the SC Champ Lightning, who have been a powerhouse for a long time, but we are a GOOD f’ng team too. We are one of the best teams in the league, because we are a talented, deep team. They start believing that, and we can do some damage in these playoffs, and beyond.

 

[cowboy82nd]

It's a lock at this point regardless of what Judge does Monday. Bob is starting game 1 with a short leash.

Hopefully the Bob detractors watched both Bob and Vasi tonight,

Are you sure Judge gets the start on Monday?

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Great game by Bob, credit where it's due. Maybe he can get into Tampa's head?
As critical as I've been of him, it would be awesome if he proved us wrong in the playoffs. Cmon man, do it

 

[Chaos2k7]

How many wins does Bob need to become the 2nd winningest goalie in our franchises postseason history?

2?

 

[Prominence Problem]

How many wins does Bob need to become the 2nd winningest goalie in our franchises postseason history?

2?

Well depends if play-in round is counted in postseason records?
If not, then 3 to move into all-time second place. List goes:

1. Beezer 13
2. Lu & Theodore 2
3. Clemmensen 1

The list stops there. Mike Vernon appeared in four games, but didn't get a single win. Also Mark Fitzpatrick appeared in two games, but he didn't record a win either.

 

[PSLguy]

Well depends if play-in round is counted in postseason records?
If not, then 3 to move into all-time second place. List goes:

1. Beezer 13
2. Lu & Theodore 2
3. Clemmensen 1

The list stops there. Mike Vernon appeared in four games, but didn't get a single win. Also Mark Fitzpatrick appeared in two games, but he didn't record a win either.

Those stats are terrible. One goaltender with more than 10 wins and the next highest is 2?

That really hits home how terrible this franchise has been in the playoffs.

Hopefully Bob moves into second place this year.

 

[cowboy82nd]

Those stats are terrible. One goaltender with more than 10 wins and the next highest is 2?

That really hits home how terrible this franchise has been in the playoffs.

Hopefully Bob moves into second place this year.

I would like to see Bob jump to number one. I think this post season he can put up 16 wins.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Well depends if play-in round is counted in postseason records?
If not, then 3 to move into all-time second place. List goes:

1. Beezer 13
2. Lu & Theodore 2
3. Clemmensen 1

The list stops there. Mike Vernon appeared in four games, but didn't get a single win. Also Mark Fitzpatrick appeared in two games, but he didn't record a win either.

2020 play ins were playoffs, all stats recorded as such.

 

[Prominence Problem]

2020 play ins were playoffs, all stats recorded as such.

So then Bob was tied with Clemmensen at 1.

 

[Chaos2k7]

So then Bob was tied with Clemmensen at 1.

Watch out Luongo!

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

So then Bob was tied with Clemmensen at 1.

Yes last year was considered playoffs for all team and individual stats, i.e. it was the Panthers 6th playoff appearance. A lot of people are salty that 24 teams were considered to have made the post-season but I mean what are you going to do? The only unbreakable record set was Vasi's 18 playoff wins lol