Post-Game Talk: Where did my Hamburger go? Habs lose 5-2
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1 win...against a potential McDavid candidate
2 OT losses...one was a 1-0 loss where we got shanked all game long against another team fighting for the Presidents Trophy, and one was a 4-3 loss against a PO bubble team.
3 bad games...one against another team fighting for the presidents trophy, one bad loss to a longshot bubble team, and one bad loss against a team that was playing so bad that it has actually managed to play itself OUT of the playoff picture.
Regardless of all that, going by your claim that we played "three bad games out of six", that in itself is absolutely terrible.
NobleSix
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I've said it a billion times and i'll say it again. This team is not going anywhere until it gets a coach that implements a system that suits the strengths of the hockey team. Strengths: Goaltending, Speed, Youth, Skill. To Therrien this all equates to "grinding defensive system". Are you kidding me? It makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Habs need to be playing an up tempo game like we saw in the shortened season. Enough of this disgustingly boring defensive garbage that generates 3 scoring chances a game. I swear to god even our damn power play is passive.
Therrien says "We don't compete as a team, that's why we're in trouble". No. We're in trouble because we have a dumbass muppet behind the bench who is only there because the best goaltender in the world is saving his job, and when the goaltender has less than a Jesus level performance, we got blown the **** out. How anybody could look at this roster at the beginning of the season and say "this team should be grinding it out, playing dump and chase defensive hockey" in beyond me.
Therrien says "We don't compete as a team, that's why we're in trouble". No. We're in trouble because we have a dumbass muppet behind the bench who is only there because the best goaltender in the world is saving his job, and when the goaltender has less than a Jesus level performance, we got blown the **** out. How anybody could look at this roster at the beginning of the season and say "this team should be grinding it out, playing dump and chase defensive hockey" in beyond me.
pepperMonkey
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Didn't get to watch the game...which seems to have been a blessing it seems...
In any case, what were the lines for the game tonight?
Thanks.
In any case, what were the lines for the game tonight?
Thanks.
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TheBlindFan
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same line, start good, finish bad... the boys are playing poorly, mainly Plekanec - galchenchuk line...
4th is no fact
dd-patch had soon good time, both not much... bad game has a team
TheBlindFan
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Everything is done base on what you are asking...
Goalting (Price is good and the system make him better)
Speed (trade, draft, everything is base on speed, evry analyse in every town are saying that about us)
Youth (okay... so except for Markov Gonchar and Plekanec... we are very old...)
Skill (not sure top level offensive skill, (except for patch and galchen) but above average sure, strengh... not tampa level)
System is all about this... if the players do play it, you get this game ( and SJ game)
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Petry trade was good. The others were depth, no problem, and I think Bergy may have rejected a trade for a scoring W or C because the other team was asking too much. If so I don't mind. That would have taken balls.
That's the end of the party though. MB has to get to work this summer on the top 6.
And game 1
And game 2
And game 3
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And game 67
And game 68
And game 69 (yes, next game, expect more "treat the puck like a hot potato, even though its a game on ice")
It would take a Carey Price going to MB and throwing in the towel...
Not a PK maybe not even a Patches but a Price.
This coupled with the disinterest offered up by some key players could do it.
On a typical hockey team, you load your top two lines with your best players and those lines play the majority of the time. This team dose not have enough high end talent to spread it over 3 lines.
Same goes for your you Defense, you ride your top 4 (who in theory should be your most dynamic D), then your third pairing should be your "shutdown" D pairing.
MB picked up defensive players at the deadline, (these are the players that should be killing penalty's/ being in a defensive role. I for one DO NOT want to see our offensive players blocking shot on the Penalty Kill. You put your offensive players on the ice after a penalty kill when you can get them favourable matches.
The lines I want to see are as follows:
Patches - Pleks - DSP
Chucky - Eller - Gallagher
DLR - DD - PAP
Prust - Mitchell -Weise
Subban - Markov
Bealieu - Petry
Emilen - Gilbert
Price
Tokarski
Forwards:
Patches and Pleks have played well together on the PK why not give them some actual time together? DSP and be the puck retrieval, screen, and open up the ice for your best players.
Eller has never been give a offensive roll (and people wonder why he doesn't put up points) he is a strong forward whom cycles the puck well. Put him with Chucky and Gallagher and let them pepper the net with shots.
DLR - DD - PAP. DD is not going to sit so stick him on this line with easy minutes and see if he produces (Note to MT; If he products leave me THERE).
Prust - Mitchell - Weise. Energy/Defensive line. Players that should be getting the bulk of the PK time (again why would you want your best players blocking shots and being worn out killing penalties??)
Defense:
In theory your top 4 should be playing the bulk of the shifts with your top two offensive lines, we have in theory 5 puck moving D yet we have no transition game.
PK - Markov. Should be on the ice a lot of the time with the top two lines, this is how you create offensive. 1st PP unit as well. Minor PK time.
NB - Petry. Whenever PK and Markov aren't on the ice with your top two lines, then this pairing should be there along with your third line which showcases a bit of offense. 2nd PP unit. Minor PK time.
Emilen - Gilbert. Should be your "shut down" paring playing mainly with the third and fourth lines, and The majority of your PK time.
After watching last nights game it is pretty evident this team is coached to sit on leads, Which I feel is wrong. Case in point last night you are up 2-0 keep pushing the pace, it is pretty hard for the other team to score when they are defending you in their own zone.
That's then end of my rant lol
Same goes for your you Defense, you ride your top 4 (who in theory should be your most dynamic D), then your third pairing should be your "shutdown" D pairing.
MB picked up defensive players at the deadline, (these are the players that should be killing penalty's/ being in a defensive role. I for one DO NOT want to see our offensive players blocking shot on the Penalty Kill. You put your offensive players on the ice after a penalty kill when you can get them favourable matches.
The lines I want to see are as follows:
Patches - Pleks - DSP
Chucky - Eller - Gallagher
DLR - DD - PAP
Prust - Mitchell -Weise
Subban - Markov
Bealieu - Petry
Emilen - Gilbert
Price
Tokarski
Forwards:
Patches and Pleks have played well together on the PK why not give them some actual time together? DSP and be the puck retrieval, screen, and open up the ice for your best players.
Eller has never been give a offensive roll (and people wonder why he doesn't put up points) he is a strong forward whom cycles the puck well. Put him with Chucky and Gallagher and let them pepper the net with shots.
DLR - DD - PAP. DD is not going to sit so stick him on this line with easy minutes and see if he produces (Note to MT; If he products leave me THERE).
Prust - Mitchell - Weise. Energy/Defensive line. Players that should be getting the bulk of the PK time (again why would you want your best players blocking shots and being worn out killing penalties??)
Defense:
In theory your top 4 should be playing the bulk of the shifts with your top two offensive lines, we have in theory 5 puck moving D yet we have no transition game.
PK - Markov. Should be on the ice a lot of the time with the top two lines, this is how you create offensive. 1st PP unit as well. Minor PK time.
NB - Petry. Whenever PK and Markov aren't on the ice with your top two lines, then this pairing should be there along with your third line which showcases a bit of offense. 2nd PP unit. Minor PK time.
Emilen - Gilbert. Should be your "shut down" paring playing mainly with the third and fourth lines, and The majority of your PK time.
After watching last nights game it is pretty evident this team is coached to sit on leads, Which I feel is wrong. Case in point last night you are up 2-0 keep pushing the pace, it is pretty hard for the other team to score when they are defending you in their own zone.
That's then end of my rant lol
Depth wasn't needed and neither was Petry imho. Habs would have pretty much the same team without the TDL atm, unless they actually had gotten someone who can play on the top 9 without looking like a grinder in the wrong place.
Vanek was the right kind of deal, the last 4 deals were just ill-advised.
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He says so many stupid things that at one point you do sincerely hope is because he thinks we are all dummies that this is what we want to hear. While it could also be about winning 6-5 'cause at one point, some teams do win by that score.....It's about leading 2-0 and if you continue pressing, you might make it 3-0...and 4-0 that at one point would deflate the Sens and they would have NEVER scored 5 goals against you. It's about keeping the possession of the puck....and not let them have it.
I mean this is SO basic...you have to believe that he knows this as well. But then...you are really not that sure anymore.
My god...what have we done....Bergevin made such a big choice and unfortunately, they do seem to go just with the record we have and be satisfied with that......
Enough is enough, time for MT to get his **** together and change things up. Split up Plekanec and Galchenyuk FFS. Put Galchenyuk back in the middle and Desharnais to the wing.
Throwing the players under the bus again...nice
How is that throwing the players under the bus?
They changed things up last night, coaches can change lines till they are blue in the face, it's up to the players to compete hard. You can't win in this league playing at 80%, not against desperate teams trying to make the playoffs.
Picaroon
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There have been multiple tied and 1 goal games where I have fallen asleep in the third period... This has never happened before this year.
Gally first line center, and after that we have 4 3rd line centers with Pleks, Deharnais, Eller, and De LaRose.
And please don't defend Pleks, every year around this time its downhill. He IS not a playoff player.
And please don't defend Pleks, every year around this time its downhill. He IS not a playoff player.
It's really one of the major reason. This damn buffoon is going to live and die with DD and doesn't see the ugliness of the situation. A blind clueless stubborn clown is what he is and we're going to have to live with that for 4 more years because he's buddy buddy with the boss. This is starting to become a circus show and it's coming fast unless significant adjustments are made. But i doubt it with a blind clueless stubborn clown at the reign.
Exactly. Therrien apologists are what DD is to Therrien. They will defend him no matter what the circumstance is, even when it's plain and damn clear that the team and the system they employ has major problems and flaws. Let's not even speak about players management and lineup combos. Pathetic.
They've also been spewing the same BS wheel of excuses like MT did against the loss vs Tampa.
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ArtPeur
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It would be funny if Bergevin would fire Therrien today and then hires Bylsma. 3 months later, we win the cup?
It's never a big deal for Therrien's apologists after every bad loss. All is well and there is no trouble in paradise. It's comical the length they'll go to defend that buffoon. It's like they don't actually pay attention to the game just like the clown behind the bench.
