Post-Game Talk: Where did my Hamburger go? Habs lose 5-2
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These threads are comical after a loss.
Some of you live in some dream world where a brilliant coach puts a system in place where the other team is sure top lose, even if they show up a lot more hungry and outwork you. This magical system is so great that no grinding is involved, the puck just magically ends up on your players' sticks time after time without having to win any puck battles. Posession is endless with a gazillion passes in a row and ends up with a nice fancy play into the net.
Some of you need to start coaching, then send us videos of these great systems.
What you don't seem to grasp is that Therrien is probably the worst coach of any current playoffs team. Do you agree or disagree?
If you disagree, name us the coach that is worst than Therrien right now on a playoff team.
And mind you, we're currently in the playoffs because we have Price, Subban, Markov holding the fort and Pacioretty scoring goals for us. Not because we have a competent coach.
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Well the Pens have a rookie coach with no experience in the playoffs!
Capuano doesn't have much more, 6 playoff games I believe
And finally Therrien did take out Cooper and Julien last year.
So I'm not MT biggest fan, but you won't convince me that's he's the worst out there.
LaP
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Sorry but the lack of experience doesn't mean they're inferior coaches.
If you actually watch Pens and Isles games, you know they have a better structure then we have. They just don't have Carey Price + Subban/Markov and that's the big difference.
Come on bro.
Cooper is better than Therrien by a mile.
Julien is also better but his roster is slow and his goalie have the Habs as his kryptonite.
And sorry but you can't win a playoff game with Lindback as your goalie, especially against the best goalie in the world, and now he's the Buffalo Sabres goalie.
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Habs 4 Life
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Not sure about the Pens and Isles having better structure but whatever.
Also Julien, is where he is BTW because of Chara and Tim Thomas. So let's be patient and see if MT can change come playoff time. And again, believe me when I tell you I ain't his biggest fan!
Nope. Probably because he's the most experienced Hab. That's all. Not the first time.
I can't remember exactly, but it's the first time I hear PK talk about this risk-minimizing-thing and the team didn't follow the system... Not odd a guy like PK doesn't like this. Price basicaly said the same thing in a more polite way.
They gave the cliche answers.
"Stick to the system" and another one was "we're not worried, we're first in the standings." Therrien also said something about not worrying because we're first. He doesn't have a clue.
I wonder if anyone in the organization has seen that we're bottom in the league in GFPG and have Buffalo, Edmonton, Arizona, Carolina, New Jersey, etc. as our company and thought "****, we need to make adjustments/fix this!"
Habs 4 Life
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If Therrien said that then it's pretty dumb, there is definitely some concern reagrding our play in the last 2 weeks.
There is a 3pts difference in the overall league standings from 1 to 8. It's unreal
I just really hope that Therrien and this "system" hasn't drained Carey Price mentally. Physically? I'm not worried. He's 27, should be in prime shape. But mentally is another story. I don't care who you are, which goalie you are, whatever; knowing you have to allow 2 goals or less on a constant basis because your team can't score will eventually drain you mentally, and without Price, we're nothing.
bipolarhabfan
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In that year we were sixth in offense, fourth in defense, had the third best PP and the eight best PK in the league. Basically that team was a good one with a 100 point scorer in Naslund, our last 100 point scorer BTW, Smith as the #1 centre, Robinson as our #1 D and players like Carbonneau/Gainey/Chelios/Nilan/Skrudland/Dahlin providing great depth. We are not at this level, especially with our anemic offense. A new coach will help things marginally but wont change what we have, a bunch of offensively inept players. Why is Pacioretty able to score in this system while the rest of the players are shooting blanks?
Julien had success with the Canadiens with a sub par team, with the Devils and now the Bruins. His record is also better and he won a Stanley Cup. I don't know how you can argue that he's a worst coach than Therrien. But hey, to each his opinion I guess!
I also hope Therrien can change come playoff time, but I have my doubts.
Carbo?? He was terrible. He was still sending message in the final minute of our season like a moron. Keeping our best player on the bench in the final minute with our goalie pulled..Similar to Gretzky not being chosen in the shootout for team canada.
Smokey Thompson
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He used the standings as an excuse vs Tampa. Last night he looked like he was fuming inside, but kept his composure. He blamed the loss on a lack of compete and effort. When asked about the lack of offence, he said offence wasn't the problem tonight.
Said his players need to work harder, etc. etc. Basically he doesn't know why his team can't score or why his PP is horrible or why his team gets outplayed every game.
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Agreed. Zero interest in Bylsma. I'd rather keep Therrien.
One year ago, this week in 2014:
NYR 4-5-1 in their last 10 games.
MTL with 3 losses in a row.
A little perspective that teams can end up playing great in April & May, even if they play like crap for a spell in March. And please spare me the doomsaying about Therrien and systems and offence. I already know what this team lacks. No need to repeat the flaws over and over. But even with its system/roster flaws, this group of forwards is playing way below their usual level. Call it a slump, call it coasting, but it's a separate issue from whatever system is in place. Yes, we have trouble scoring, but 7 goals in 6 games is not a typical example of that. Our low-scoring average is still a helluva lot better than 1.16 GPG.
Last night's game was a 40 minute colonoscopy. The last six games have been like binge-watching The Bachelor. The Habs will get back to eating solid food soon enough, just as they'll change the channel on this awful stretch of games.
NYR 4-5-1 in their last 10 games.
MTL with 3 losses in a row.
A little perspective that teams can end up playing great in April & May, even if they play like crap for a spell in March. And please spare me the doomsaying about Therrien and systems and offence. I already know what this team lacks. No need to repeat the flaws over and over. But even with its system/roster flaws, this group of forwards is playing way below their usual level. Call it a slump, call it coasting, but it's a separate issue from whatever system is in place. Yes, we have trouble scoring, but 7 goals in 6 games is not a typical example of that. Our low-scoring average is still a helluva lot better than 1.16 GPG.
Last night's game was a 40 minute colonoscopy. The last six games have been like binge-watching The Bachelor. The Habs will get back to eating solid food soon enough, just as they'll change the channel on this awful stretch of games.
CanadienShark
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I swear I've seen Plekanec do it earlier this year. It's meaningless. The Sharks are in the same situation. No one thinks Marleau will be captain (he won't) but he's taken the ceremonial faceoff at least once this year.
I didn't say he was a good coach at all. I said he did a decent job with the team and roster he had at that time.
Regular season
2006–07: 82G - 42 W - 34 L - 6 OTL ; 90PTS ; 4th in Northeast ; Missed playoffs
2007-08: 82G - 47 W - 25 L - 10 OTL ; 104PTS ; 1st in Northeast ; Playoffs - W 4–3 over BOS, L 4–1 to PHI
2008–09: 66G - 35 W - 24 L - 7 OTL ; Fired before end of season
Mind you, I used the word decent lol.
Carbo was a terrible coach. The only reason we had success in 07-08 was because we were great on the PP.
Replacing one terrible coach with another is not a solution.
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He was fired right before the playoffs IIRC.
Therrien is not a better coach then Julien, but I was reffering on Julien being a better coach can be argued that he also took advantage of a great pair of defenseman years ago in Seidenberg and Chara and a hot Tim Thomas!
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