I think Antropov has value as a 3rd-line center. He's good defensively, he's smart with the puck and he uses his size around both nets. I don't think many contenders are looking for top-6 scoring, just depth that can chip in offensively and not be a liability defensively. Chicago and Vancouver both need centers; I'm sure there's more.
What should Chevy do at the deadline?
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I think Antropov has value as a 3rd-line center. He's good defensively, he's smart with the puck and he uses his size around both nets. I don't think many contenders are looking for top-6 scoring, just depth that can chip in offensively and not be a liability defensively. Chicago and Vancouver both need centers; I'm sure there's more.
scelaton
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I have a very strong hunch that Hainsey would like to play for a team near his home and NYR, NYI and Philly all fit the bill. Trouble is, the first 2 are direct competitors of the Jets for a playoff spot and I can't see Chevy handing Hainsey over to them at this critical juncture. Philly would have been the other choice, but they are almost out of the playoff picture.
garret9
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I want to extend Hainsey... because Hainsey-Bogosian are just a pair that works real good and he can be a stopgap until Trouba takes his place in the top4. 
There's no doubt in my mind that Hainsey is our second best LHD, and Bogosian plays better with him than without him. Last season Bogosian cited a lot of his improvement to playing with Hainsey who is very vocal on the ice.
2011-12 Bogosian WOWY Hainsey
STAT
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W/O
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WITH
CF/20| 19.47 | 18.88
CA/20| 19.64 | 17.82
CF% | 49.8% | 51.4
2012-13 Bogosian WOWY Hainsey
STAT
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W/O
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WITH
CF/20| 20.73 | 21.30
CA/20| 19.73 | 19.62
CF% | 51.2% | 52.0
the without data for this season is basically 1 game with Clitsome (which was good) and 1 game with Byfuglien (which wasn't so good), so keep sample size in mind
Wanting and having it happen are two different things though.
There's no doubt in my mind that Hainsey is our second best LHD, and Bogosian plays better with him than without him. Last season Bogosian cited a lot of his improvement to playing with Hainsey who is very vocal on the ice.
2011-12 Bogosian WOWY Hainsey
CF/20| 19.47 | 18.88
CA/20| 19.64 | 17.82
CF% | 49.8% | 51.4
2012-13 Bogosian WOWY Hainsey
CF/20| 20.73 | 21.30
CA/20| 19.73 | 19.62
CF% | 51.2% | 52.0
Wanting and having it happen are two different things though.
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allan5oh
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Ibecause Hainsey-Bogosian are just a pair that works real good and he can be a stopgap until Trouba takes his place in the top4.
In other words, trade Hainsey at the end of the week.
Noel's head shaking on Burmi and Antro giveaways may say a lot about their future as Jets.
Burmi continues to try to beat dmen 1-on-1 and turn the puck over at the opposition blueline. That likely is Noel's frustration with him, not getting pucks deep.
Antro has been soft recently in the d-zone, with ill timed turnovers. Can see him saying, "they had more turnovers than the neighborhood bakery!"
Both Antro and Burmi's days as Jets could be numbered. Boy, that sounds like a Lawless comment.
Burmi continues to try to beat dmen 1-on-1 and turn the puck over at the opposition blueline. That likely is Noel's frustration with him, not getting pucks deep.
Antro has been soft recently in the d-zone, with ill timed turnovers. Can see him saying, "they had more turnovers than the neighborhood bakery!"
Both Antro and Burmi's days as Jets could be numbered. Boy, that sounds like a Lawless comment.
garret9
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While Trouba may be NHL ready, being tough minutes top4 ready is entirely different thing.
Looking at even high-end prospects like Doughty, Pietrangelo, Weber, Bogosian, Hedman, MDZ, Giardi, OEL, etc. These guys either took a year of bottom rung or AHL (or mix), or they sunk when placed in the top4.
And Noel likes to put more weight on the second pair than most coaches... although he hasn't done it that much with having Clitsome, Redmond or Stuart on the second pair for a lot of that season.
garret9
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Noel's head shaking on Burmi and Antro giveaways may say a lot about their future as Jets.
Burmi continues to try to beat dmen 1-on-1 and turn the puck over at the opposition blueline. That likely is Noel's frustration with him, not getting pucks deep.
Antro has been soft recently in the d-zone, with ill timed turnovers. Can see him saying, "they had more turnovers than the neighborhood bakery!"
Both Antro and Burmi's days as Jets could be numbered. Boy, that sounds like a Lawless comment.
Yet after that Burmistrov got promoted to second line.
Also, Burmistrov only had 1 failure for zone entry (the head shake one)... which is the same as Miettinen and Antropov.
He had 2 successful zone entries which was more or tied with anyone not named Kane or Ladd [EDIT: I had Wheeler on here but I was mistaken, it was Ladd].
Also, Burmistrov did have successful dumping the puck zone entries.
I've started tracking Jets' zone entries... this will be fun myth busting time
Blackie Dammit
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If Trouba turns pro, which is the rumour of the day...how about taking one one or two of our surplus dmen and trading for a decent linemate for Kane?????
garret9
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IMO...
Postma and/or Clitsome + type package could get a decent RWer for Kane.
Postma is also a righty and he holds a decent amount of trade value as a former AHL allstar and having some impressive skills/raw tools.
Kane needs a Ladd to his Wheeler. An infront of the net type guy who is at least fast enough to be there at the right time, but can actually somewhat finish, unlike Miettinen.
Then run the season easing Trouba into pro with:
Enstrom-Byfuglien
Hainsey-Bogosian
Stuart-Trouba
Kulda
Byfuglien-Bogosian-Trouba down the right side.. how sexy is that?
Potential-wise anyways.
garret9
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EFF potential that is damn sexy right now
hahaOpponents left wingers everywhere: "****"
broinwhyteridge
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If Trouba turns pro, won't Chevy want to be careful to not play him in more than five regular season games? Would hate to burn a year on his ELC for @ 7-10 games.
Isn't it more likely he'd go to the Icecaps?
Isn't it more likely he'd go to the Icecaps?
Would Trouba going pro be more of a next season thing Jets-wise? Wouldn't he take an ATO/PTO with the Ice Caps for the rest of the season?
garret9
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I'm not sure about the try-out, he may need to officially be on a try-out to play in the AHL this season, but either way he would need to sign an ELC first and lose his NCAA eligibility.
My guess would be the Jets would like him to sign right now, finish out the season with the IceCaps, and then maybe have him up to practise with the big team / be a 'Black Ace' if they make the playoffs.
The hitch may be that he wouldn't want to leave Michigan unless he was guaranteed an NHL spot, as he seems to have said in the past that his college education is important to him, so he may not want to leave if the plan for him isn't NHL sooner rather than later.
My guess would be the Jets would like him to sign right now, finish out the season with the IceCaps, and then maybe have him up to practise with the big team / be a 'Black Ace' if they make the playoffs.
The hitch may be that he wouldn't want to leave Michigan unless he was guaranteed an NHL spot, as he seems to have said in the past that his college education is important to him, so he may not want to leave if the plan for him isn't NHL sooner rather than later.
Yet after that Burmistrov got promoted to second line.
Also, Burmistrov only had 1 failure for zone entry (the head shake one)... which is the same as Miettinen and Antropov.
He had 2 successful zone entries which was more or tied with anyone not named Kane or Ladd [EDIT: I had Wheeler on here but I was mistaken, it was Ladd].
Also, Burmistrov did have successful dumping the puck zone entries.
I've started tracking Jets' zone entries... this will be fun myth busting time
Ya, I noticed he spent some time with Kane and Olli, though I'm wondering if that was more Mitten's play than Burmi's play. Either way, the more Burmi plays with Kane the better. I'm just wondering if Jets coaching staff and management are losing patience with Burmi. Hope not.
Depending on how much he plays, playing in St John's would burn a year of his ELC too, no?
Don't think it matters if its with Jets or IceCaps. But his salary would be much different obviously.
garret9
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Well, yes and no.
The options of Welly, tangradi, cormier, thorbs or Antro - with Antro 'in the doghouse too' that really only leaves welly.
And Welly didn't do much with Kane and Olli when they were together before. I'd argue Burmi is the only option there.
Reed Solomon
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They won't get that again EVER. Cause it's the SOUTHEAST DIVISION.
we need to win it this year. There will never be another chance unless I suppose global warming melts the ice caps and we really do end up as the southeast.
what could burmistrov + shefeile(spelling?) + trouba fetch us at the deadline? a top line winger/center?
Yet after that Burmistrov got promoted to second line.
Also, Burmistrov only had 1 failure for zone entry (the head shake one)... which is the same as Miettinen and Antropov.
He had 2 successful zone entries which was more or tied with anyone not named Kane or Ladd [EDIT: I had Wheeler on here but I was mistaken, it was Ladd].
Also, Burmistrov did have successful dumping the puck zone entries.
I've started tracking Jets' zone entries... this will be fun myth busting time
**** yes. let me know if your going to miss a game and i'll try and keep track as well.
