hmc1987
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YOU HAVE TO OVERPAY CIRELLI AND SERGE TO A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT TO LEAVE TB AND MOVE TO CANADA.
Based on what? I would imagine most hockey players would prefer a Canadian city to live at this point
YOU HAVE TO OVERPAY CIRELLI AND SERGE TO A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT TO LEAVE TB AND MOVE TO CANADA.
I highly doubt that.Based on what? I would imagine most hockey players would prefer a Canadian city to live at this point
I highly doubt that.
Canadians are still migrating to the US at a much higher rate than Americans to Canada, even with all the craziness of Trump and COVID.
Add on top of that fact is that professional hockey players can insulate themselves from everything much better than the average person.
Based on what? I would imagine most hockey players would prefer a Canadian city to live at this point
Thanks, I needed a good laugh.I've lived entire life in US. If my family wasn't here I'd be moving to Canada - when the borders open - as soon as possible.
Canada is like a dreamland in comparison to US.
You think more hockey players would rather pay more taxes, leave sunshine, and go to a worse team? So how many star players (Point, Stamkos) have taken 20-25% less money to go to Canada? Not talking Tavares getting paid. I'm talking 20-25% discount.Based on what? I would imagine most hockey players would prefer a Canadian city to live at this point
Based on what? I would imagine most hockey players would prefer a Canadian city to live at this point
Do you have a link for this? I'd like to read it because its a subject of interest to me as a dual citizen.I highly doubt that.
Canadians are still migrating to the US at a much higher rate than Americans to Canada, even with all the craziness of Trump and COVID.
Add on top of that fact is that professional hockey players can insulate themselves from everything much better than the average person.
Agreed, as Players maximize their earnings.Attributing how you feel to the majority of hockey players without anything to support it is a bold strategy
I'm not. In this economic climate, I'd guess a late pick could be about as good as it gets.Kinda surprised Killorn isn’t gone for mid round picks yet
You’re pretty cocky for a team that hasn’t had a good start to their offseason.Posters like Mcjedi and others are and have been incredibly salty and jealous of Tampa's success for a long time. It's pretty common, fan of team that hasnt won anything in years(if ever) making wild claims year after year that they "just know" what's going to happen with Tampa and have been wrong every time the past 6 years. Brisebois has made it very clear that keeping the 3 rfas are the main thing, so he will eventually make the moves needed to keep them. Moving picks/retention to trade Johnson, trading Killorn remains the most likely option(probably trading one of Coburn or Paquette as well). If Stamkos isnt as ready or healthy as planned, him going on LTIR is also an option,though a less likely one. Very unlikely any of the rfas are leaving as OS are extremely unlikely and the guys aren't interested in leaving, but this will be a drawn out process while JBB patiently attempts to work the different deals.
I've lived entire life in US. If my family wasn't here I'd be moving to Canada - when the borders open - as soon as possible.
Canada is like a dreamland in comparison to US.
I've lived entire life in US. If my family wasn't here I'd be moving to Canada - when the borders open - as soon as possible.
Canada is like a dreamland in comparison to US.
Do you have a link for this? I'd like to read it because its a subject of interest to me as a dual citizen.
I did a search and found this stating the opposite:
Coronavirus has more Americans seeking Canadian residence | wusa9.com
But, I'd prefer additional info (i.e., something more comprehensive) on this subject versus just this one article. The idea of the "rate" doesn't surprise me, but I wondered if the numbers are decreasing on one side (Canada to the U.S.) and increasing on the other side (U.S. to Canada).
Again, just wanting more info versus coming into this subject with a preconceived point of view.
Agreed, as Players maximize their earnings.
Players have a short window in their 20's and early 30's to make their money. So, they can always retire in their 30's to raise their children in Canada if they wanted to.
But, we've seen plenty of second generation players now who represent the USA despite having Canadian fathers. That is not surprising since their fathers likely married someone from the USA where they played and likely retired in the last or one of their last stops in the NHL.
Hey guys! Take a shot every time you see the word "offer sheet" in this thread. You'll be good and drunk by the time you finish the thread!
Let me get this straight. He’ll retire and walk away from roughly $32m that’s owed to him? Wanna explain your logic to me?Stammer probably retires, so that will free up some space.
Every offseason for the last 4-5 years people have been telling us we are in cap hell and going to have to blow it up. I still remember the triplets line and debates about which of Johnson, Kucherov, or Palat we'd have to trade because "they don't have the cap space for all three". Since then Kucherov has become a superstar and we've added guys like Point, Vasilevskiy, and McDonagh, and somehow they all still fit. Every year this team has not only kept it's core together, they have managed to improve the team each time. Now I don't anticipate an improvement this offseason, but guess what, we don't need to improve this year!
I anticipate after this offseason we'll have to dust off that old Mark Twain quote again:
"The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"
Lol, you calling anyone cocky after all the shit you talked is the best laugh of the day. I believe you said it was "fantasyland" that any Tampa player would waive their ntc, oops wrong, but not surprising. Once again you just presume to know what Tampa's management is thinking and the value of their players. That's worked out well for you as well thus far... Last I checked, Tampa won the Cup while your team failed again in the 2nd round, so while most Tampa fans certainly haven't been overly cocky, our team actually won something.You’re pretty cocky for a team that hasn’t had a good start to their offseason.
no one here was sure of the value of the Tampa players heading into the draft and UFA.
I assumed Killorn had positive value and would be traded for a 2020 draft pick and a decent one at that. I was wrong. His value is probably negative and it will cost Tampa an asset to move him.
I assumed Johnson was a negative value asset and that certainly turned out to be true with the waiver failure.
So now what? No one knows. Tampa can hope their RFAs sign one year LaBanc deals and maybe they do? Maybe they have no choice. It’s possible. Then you just run it back.
more likely, they’ll pay a cost of something like Foote and their 2021 1st round pick to move Johnson off the roster. Expensive, but a fix.
I won’t even guess what it costs to move Killorn. I have no idea. I assume less than Johnson. Does 2 2nds do it? Less? More? I don’t know.
Tampa can probably get those two off their books at the cost of high picks and their top prospect.
Does Groude have any value? Probably not. Can he be waived and claimed? Very unlikely. Would Tampa trade Palat? Would he waive? I don’t know.
it’s hard to guess. This salary cap climate is as confusing and difficult as any we’ve seen. Dumping your players into another teams cap has never been this expensive or difficult before.
Tampa hasn’t figured anything out. Their options to trade guys off their roster look awful. But do their RFAs have any leverage? I don’t know. How willing are the RFAs to go after money from a new franchise.
it wouldn’t shock me if they take one year deals. Something like 30% of the money will never be paid on players 2020-21 deals... and that is before taxes. So striving for a big dollar deal this year means a lot of it is never paid.
I see both sides of an unresolved coin.
Lol, you calling anyone cocky after all the shit you talked is the best laugh of the day. I believe you said it was "fantasyland" that any Tampa player would waive their ntc, oops wrong, but not surprising. Once again you just presume to know what Tampa's management is thinking and the value of their players. That's worked out well for you as well thus far... Last I checked, Tampa won the Cup while your team failed again in the 2nd round, so while most Tampa fans certainly haven't been overly cocky, our team actually won something.
Tampa won't be moving Foote to move Johnson, and the fact that you even think he's on the table shows your pitiful lack of any real knowledge of Tampa. Killorn to the best of anyone's knowledge hasn't even been mentioned for a trade, and it seems Brisebois may want to keep him. Only because of the virus and the flat cap does even Johnson have negative value, as Killorn, if traded, will likely return at least a mid round pick, not having to attach 2 2nds to him(2nd best laugh of the day though). Gourde isn't being asked to waive and neither is Palat. Johnson has already waived for 8 teams and has told the team if there's another with interest outside of them to approach him and see if there's something there.
If basic frameworks are in place with the rfas, it's very possible moving Johnson, Paquette and Coburn is enough, or just Johnson and Killorn. Point is, people like yourself have spouted the same bullshit about Tampa can't do this, won't be able to keep these guys, this guy will get x dollars, offer sheets etc. for the past 5 or 6 years. You've been wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME, so most Tampa fans are going to tell you over and over how laughable you sound when fans of other teams presume to know the Lightning better than the fans that know the team and follow them daily. Tampa fans know there will be a few depth pieces lost, but none of the key core or rising young players are very likely to leave. Maybe because of a global pandemic and a flat cap you'll finally be right once about Tampa not being able to keep guys! I'm sure it'll be the highlight of your time on here.