Points aren’t everything, Tkachuk has a unique skill set that Nylander cannot match. Perimeter players don’t win you games when it counts
Proposal: W. Nylander, Kerfoot, N. Robertson For B. Tkachuk
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Points aren’t everything, Tkachuk has a unique skill set that Nylander cannot match. Perimeter players don’t win you games when it counts
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They're saying no because so far Nylander has actually proven more at the NHL level- especially offensively.
Its not that difficult to see why either. It's one think to prefer to Tkachuk (which is fine/understandable), it's another to claim hes a tier above - something that's blatantly false.
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Hockey Stick
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Value wise, yes this is good for Ottawa. But aside from that, sens are losing one of their two star (potentially franchise) players, and one of the only reasons that people would show up to watch that pathetic team
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this may be true but tkachuk isnt kerfoot,robertson and a 2nd more valuable than Nylander. not even close
also lets let tkachuk actually play in the playoffs before talking about winning games when it counts.
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the + is the leafs best forward prospect, a 40+pt C, and a 2nd in a draft where they don't have a 1st.
for a kid who has 40% the points Nylander has this year
so yeah no
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Nylander would have just as good a chance to be a star potentially franchise player as Tkachuk when he’s finally not being overshadowed by franchise talents of Matthews and Marner. Plus adding in all of the others in this trade would bring even more value to a team that basically is looking for everything.
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Brady > Nylander and nobody wants that Kerfoot contract the dude is not good that's a cap dump by the Leafs. 2nd rd pick means that the value is bad for the Leafs but the trade makes no sense to begin with since it doesn't help Ottawa at all.
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I have no problem with you thinking that the Sens would reject this offer. I believe that you have a decent idea of how Brady is viewed by the organization, and I can accept your opinion that this would not happen.
Why, however, do you claim to understand the Leaf viewpoint when you clearly do not? Just like the reasons you cited for Ottawa not wanting to lose someone like Brady, there are multiple reasons that the Leafs would not consider this trade. Not only would the value the Leaf organization place on the assets to be given up far exceed the return, the holes it would create in both the current roster and future plans for feeding the club would be very big. Perhaps the way you think these assets are viewed by Toronto could be off if you think it's such an unbelievable deal for them?
I see these "X team would take this and run" comment far too often on these boards. I understand that it might seem that way from your perspective, but it's clear that you lack as solid an understanding from the other's viewpoint. These boards are a (ideally) a great opportunity to gain the perspective from the other side. Instead of rejecting it, why not consider that you may be fallible when it comes to knowing what's going on with other teams?
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I wouldn't do it either as Ottawa, but your reasoning is just plain bad.
Kerfoot a cap dump?
Completely ignoring N. Robertson?
Just a bad take, to be honest.
Now that I am over that post, Ottawa needs to rebuild it's nucleus. Nylander can be one of those guys, but I wouldn't start with him. Tkachuk and Chabot is a much better starting point. They would win the trade on value but it's extremely difficult to find players like Brady, and I don't think the value is enough to get them really thinking deeply about it.
An equivalent trade would be like trading Tkachuk, Pageau, Batherson and a 2nd for a guy who is an upgrade, but not an organization altering upgrade. Unless you are getting a #1C or a #1D, why bother?
How is this thread not locked yet? How often is a package as good as Nylander, Kerfoot, Robertson and a 2nd traded for a single player? Very rarely. And if it is it's sure as hell going to be for a player much more valuable than Brady. I have no doubt the guy is going to be a great player, but come on. This is so far beyond an overpayment here.
I fully get a rebuilding team should be focused on quality over quantity and getting the building blocks in place, but this offer would be waaaay to good to pass up if it were ever on the table.
I fully get a rebuilding team should be focused on quality over quantity and getting the building blocks in place, but this offer would be waaaay to good to pass up if it were ever on the table.
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Menzinger
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You sure it's not the guy who has A career high of 45 points being the guy whose overrated here lol?
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Hockey Stick
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I'm saying that Tkachuk is one of the two guys that Ottawa is portraying as their franchise player. Him and Chabot are being given the reigns
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Bad trade in fantasy, but in real life I take Tkachuk if Im trying to win games
strattonius
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We are looking at career highs for a 20 year old? Good argument.
Tkachuk is already the leader on his team - I dont think anyone sees Nylander on the same path.
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Nick Robertson has 12 goals in 10 OHL games, was one of the youngest in the draft and doesn't even get a mention in most posts
Seriously people have no idea how good he is going to be. He's incredibly skilled but has that Hyman drivetrain and tenacity. I promise you he is not just a generic "+" or whatever, I would be crushed if he was dealt. Best prospect they've had since Matthews and I really like Sandin.
Seriously people have no idea how good he is going to be. He's incredibly skilled but has that Hyman drivetrain and tenacity. I promise you he is not just a generic "+" or whatever, I would be crushed if he was dealt. Best prospect they've had since Matthews and I really like Sandin.
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It's not all about points. Bottom line is winning hockey games. Tkachuk would help the Leafs do that way more than Nylander would help Ottawa.
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Need to take October junior points with a grain of salt. Some kids were at NHL camps and others are still playing their 9-NHL game tryout before returning to junior. Point being the junior leagues aren't at full strength at the beginning of the season, and skilled players can go on amazing hot streaks early because of the easier competition.
Robertson is a good player, but he definitely will not retain anywhere near that goal pace throughout the season.
Probably referring to the Tkachuk family who all play (or played) in the style that you need to win in the playoffs and who have a combined record of 35 wins 63 losses in the playoffs and 1 win 16 losses since the 2004/05 lockout.
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Nor is Tkachuk, and even if we did move him, it wouldn’t be to Toronto. You guys can have Ennis and Hainsey back though. Boedker can be yours as well. Send back half a tuna sandwich for Boedker.
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Neutral Habs fan here... Leafs would do this in a heartbeat. Tkachuk is just what they need, plus the salary they’d be shedding would allow them to re-sign Muzzin and Barrie. Kerfoot and Robertson are being overrated big time here. Kerfoot is a dime a dozen player and Robertson could be another Petan.
