Ok put Colin White on Matthews wing and lets see how much he scores. If all the leafs were as good as you all claim they are they would have a playoff series win by now.
47 points while playing responsible defensively a more important position, a heavier and grittier game including PK while scoring at a higher ppg pace in the same season with worse linemates. Yeah they are comparable its fine if you dont agree. Nylander is paid more compared to his peers like every leaf that that Dubas's signed. Pretty hard to use that as a standard when its clear Dubas has been taken to the woodshed with all three of Nylander, Marner and Matthews when you look at their comparables.
Risk with Tkachuk... Tune into a game he is a force all over the ice producing with worse linemates than anyone in the leafs top 6 on a really bad team. Tkachuk and Nylander simply arent in the same range Tkachuk outscores him at a younger age while bringing undeniably way more to the table. They couldnt be any more different players, if Nylander isnt scoring he isnt contributing. I watch the leafs plenty they are an incredibly exciting team and lets get serious if you want to watch or not they are on. I dont know how anyone that watches that team all the time cant identify that Nylander is a complimentary player to a forward core of Matthews, Marner and Tavares. Like I said try watching another team other than the leafs it will be enlightening. If Tkachuk was a leaf this wouldnt even be a conversation. Its common knowledge the networks over hype leaf players they always have, its how they make money. Some leafs desever the hype and others dont. Nylander doesnt, Kelly Hrudey's rant was 100 percent accurate in the playoffs last year I have no interest of having a player like that on my team in anything but a complimentary role. Not for a second would I ever considering trading a player like Tkachuk for him. This isnt fantasy sports there is a heavy physical attribute to hockey that makes a difference.
As a leaf fan has your opinion changed since the early 2000's or were you even a fan of those teams? When grit, truculance etc was important now it isnt?....
As a long time sens fan if the sens could have traded Havlat for player like Tkachuk it would have happened but it simply doesnt. So no Nylander for Tkachuk isnt happening.
A decent amount of what your saying is complete conjecture and for example, we have no way of knowing how Colin White would do playing with Matthews.
Remember leafs got last place in the league before Matthews, Marner and Nylander joined with Nylander playing a much more prominent role than Marner his first 2 years. Matthews is a great player but he hardly single handedly took the leafs from last place to the playoffs. Maybe guys like Nylander helped the team and produced a bunch of points because they are a good player.
You proceed to take shots at the Leafs and Dubas repeatedly, really shows your true intentions and bias. I never once said Nylander for Brady is even value so I'm not sure what that whole part was about.
I said Nylander is better than White, which he is, and Tkachuk is worse than Marner, which he is.
You proceed to say White had a better season last year. Which he did by a small amount and it was by far Nylanders worst season while being White's best to date. White has scored less points and paced for less points than Nylander at the same age. Nylander also put up a 61 point season in his d+3 year when White was still bouncing between the NHL and AHL. You ignore this, shift the goalposts and start saying it is his intangibles than make him more valuable. You finish by taking a few more shots at Dubas. Also oddly enough you bring up draft pedigree for a guy taken late in the 1st round when comparing him to a guy taken early in the 1st round. Not that draft pedigree really matters in your d+4 season but ya very odd.
Are you saying there is no risk that B Tkachuk wont become as good as his brother? You then go on a long rant whereby you assumed my opinion (that Nylander = Tkachuk) which I never said so I'm not really going to reply to that.
The game has changed drastically since 2000 and if you tried to play the game the same way now you would be in the basement every year. The game is about speed now, toughness is obviously important too. A willingness to go to the dirty areas etc but this obsession with truculance is crazy and dated.
