Blue Jays Discussion: Vlad Jr wait/watch II: Watch Harder

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    No arbitration for Stroman this year...which means no passive aggressive tweets about how much the team hates him.

     
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    According to MLB.com, Brito was the Dodgers 23rd ranked prospect and Sopko isn’t in their top 30
     
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    Ronny Brito Profile:

    Team: Ogden Raptors (ROK) ETA: 2021 Position: SSAge: 19 DOB: 03/22/1999 Bats: R Throws: RHeight: 6' 0" Weight: 165 lb. Signed: July 2, 2015 - LAD

    Scouting grades: Hit: 40 | Power: 40 | Run: 55 | Arm: 60 | Field: 60 | Overall: 45
    One of the best defenders in the 2015-16 international class, Brito landed a $2 million bonus to sign out of the Dominican Republic. He spent his first pro season in the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League before making his U.S. debut in 2017. That ended in early August when a runner slid into him on an attempted double play and broke his left leg.

    While Brito still needs time to develop more consistency, he has Gold Glove upside at shortstop. He covers plenty of ground at shortstop thanks to his smooth actions, quick first step and keen instincts, and his soft hands and strong arm add to his playmaking ability. His tools will play anywhere in the infield and he saw time at second and third base last year.

    Brito isn't nearly as advanced offensively as he is defensively. He's a switch-hitter with promising bat speed and solid speed but hit just .232/.324/.362 in his first two pro seasons. He showed some patience in his debut but was overly aggressive last season and struck out in 33 percent of his plate appearances.
     
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    That was the year where both the Yankees and Red Sox were struggling, and the Jays were in contention even at 50-51. Price and Tulo were finishing touches that made the fans (correctly) believe that the team was a competitor. I would argue that if our record was 40-61 and we added Price and Tulo, we wouldn't see much difference in attendance.

    Here's a chart that demonstrates my point. We've had the pleasure of seeing two of the greatest pitchers of their generation (also, ever) pitch for us, yet during their starts out attendance was up only around 2k:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Both seem to basically be nothing prospects. Brito is close to 20 and hasn't gotten out of rookie ball yet...though I believe a lot of that is due to fighting injury. Sopko maybe could turn into a pen arm.
     
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    Sopko seems like nothing but depth, 24 years old and only hit AA ball. Brito might be worth something;

    Andrew Sopko draft profile

    Heredia, Alvarez, Brito headline int'l haul

    2M in a bonus to Brito has to make you think the Dodgers thought highly of him.
     
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    Clearing that salary space for Bryce
     
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    Found a scouting report on Brito by John Sickels made a couple months ago

     
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    That does not seem like that bad of a deal for opening up a roster spot and a bit of salary, even if the Jays eat most of it. Both could provide some value down the line. Now you can have Jansen-McGuire-Maile as your Org. Depth at catcher and use that 40-man spot on someone hopefully a bit more useful.
     
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    Awesome. Now all the Jays need to do to get rid of their last millstone is find a taker for Morales.
     
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    Poacher!
     
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    Is it confirmed the Jays are retaining 75% ($15M) of Martin's salary?
     
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    If that's the case I would hope we would at least get a top 20 prospect from the Dodgers in return. Return is meh for eating that much $
     
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    Was hoping for Ortiz or Carillo but can't complain about buying a prospect.
     
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    We should poach one of those scouts the Braves let go.
     
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    He’s played 90 games in each of the last two seasons and is 36 years old. He’s a backup catcher at this point. A good backup, for sure, but I wouldn’t think he has much worth regardless of salary.
     
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    Wouldn’t really be poaching
     
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    If his value is that low and we are eating that much why not just keep him? He's a good vet for the kids to show them the way, could play C, backup C, 3b, Ss and if he has a good season you probably get more at the trade deadline. Maybe the 25 man roster is tight?
     
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    Getting Jansen paying time is more valuable than riding out one year for a veteran that probably doesn't want to be here anyway.
     
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    It sounds like it is 16-18M. If its 17.5M, then that is the amount of Phelp's guaranteed salary. Always value in what you save, the playing time you gain on top of the return.
     
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    Someone mentioned playing time for Jansen, but also an opportunity for him to win a WS. It’s a favour as well, I’m sure.
     
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