Seems a lot of times you have to eventually pay for those players too, a lot of times its all about he future, the future, the future. But eventually you have to say screw it lets try and see what happens. Not every team is going to be like Pitts and get Fluery/Malkin/Crosby or Chicago with Kane/Toews back to back drafts and able to build juggernauts from those. Hell Buffalo and Edmonton have been trying for 10 years now, Edmonton slowly looks like they are getting it finally. Gotta say "lets go and lets try"
Confirmed Trade: [VAN/LAK] Tyler Toffoli for Tim Schaller, Tyler Madden, 2020 2nd, cond. 2022 4th (if Toffoli signs)
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Madden is a gamer and plays much bigger than his size, and is a great skater. He'll bulk up enough to be able to compete in the NHL.
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This also gives them the leeway to make "risky" selections like Kaliyev to round out their stable. I, too, would've liked my team to have taken this route (still 100% for the initial O'Rielly trade, though.)
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Canucks are battling for top spot in a very open division but since the new year have seen our secondary scoring dry up.
Recently lost Boeser for at least three weeks and Ferland might not play ever again.
Toffoli in theory should help fill Boeser's spot and then provide depth once Brock comes back.
I think Benning is slightly concerned he'll be out of a job if we don't get in the playoffs. Madden is a good prospect but still a year or two away and the second is a wildcard. I wouldn't have made the trade but at least understand the reasoning.
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BlueBaron
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To be fair McDavid is getting kind of old, he's almost 24.
Good god! We’d be in cap hell if we got McDavid. Probably need to gut the team by getting rid of Beagle and Eriksson. No thanks!
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Dubi Doo
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And you dont know if Toffoli will re-sign. That's risky. It'd make sense to overpay if the Nucks were true contenders, but they cant even pull ahead in the weakest division in hockey. Chances of Nucks actually contending this year is paper thin, so you better hope Benning can sign Toffoli to a reasonable deal or else you gave up a very promising prospect on false hope.
Frolov 6'3
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Yup.
I am also not a fan to come up with points with pure goalscorers.
Dumb argument.
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That's some Ken Daneyko level production...That's one hell of a veteran pick up.
Honestly, I doubt Benning is worried about his job or is in danger. His draft record here has been great, are you really going to fire a GM that added players like Pettersson, Boeser and Hughes to your team and added a top line power forward winger like JT Miller. Benning didn’t make this move out of concerns about his job... he made it cause he’s sees a shot to go deep into the playoffs and he took it.
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In 4 seasons none-the less. Crazy he can compound 4 years worth of games each year for 4 years without anyone noticing.
This LAK fan isn't sad to see TT leave. The guy just doesn't show up enough. I hope he plays better for Van, but don't be surprised when a few games go by and you're not sure if he played or not.
But, he's a good locker-room guy. His teammates appear to enjoy his company. I'm sure now being on a team in the playoff hunt will boost his confidence and he'll produce.
Good luck, thanks for 2014.
But, he's a good locker-room guy. His teammates appear to enjoy his company. I'm sure now being on a team in the playoff hunt will boost his confidence and he'll produce.
Good luck, thanks for 2014.
I agree that there are always fans on both sides of the fence for teams that aren't legit contenders, but at the same time, a team like Montreal has had a "let's make the playoffs - anything can happen" approach forever now. This approach meant trading our prospect pool to maintain the status quo. Meanwhile, teams like Pitts, LA and Chicago have proven that selling your assets for meaningful futures and growing them together is what builds dynasties nowadays. I would personally love to see that in Montreal; id rather have a team that takes another 3 years to make the playoffs but that can hope for hte cup every year than this status quo crap
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Madden is at least 3years away and is behind 3C already who r young and he is still at best 50/50 to make it.
2nd rounder is like 35% chance to play 100games iirc
4th isn't an asset really just an ahl player who might be bottom 6 material.
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Vancouver's a good team, the Pacific is very wide open this year. They have as good a chance as any to win the division. Getting a guy like Toffoli will help in that regard.
Frolov 6'3
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Picks (2nd round ++) are not much of a problem for most. As soon as a prospect is involved who is doing well, than it’s a problem for many.
That pick will never get a name for the team that gave it away.
The prospect already has a name and can be followed for a decade if it pans out.
Its very simple.
ddawg1950
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To improve the team. Which it did in the short term.
And the long term, well that's like all trades. ..it's a roll of the dice.
But today, the team is better.
