Nobody is saying that Barrie is bad here. They are saying that after his disaster in Toronto, playing with arguably the top 2 centres in the NHL helped him rebound. There probably isn't a better scenario that Barrie could have been in than the one he chose for this season. He will still be good if he is on a team with some good players, and has coaches who know his strengths and can develop a system that uses those.
I don't really know. I don't think it would be smart to go over 5M per, and I would be most comfortable with 3 years, but I anticipate someone offers him 6-7M X 5 years and he would be silly to turn that down for the deal I would offer him. He certainly has earned a raise if another team can afford to pay it.
Again, the only people disagreeing with this statement are a handful of trolling Leafs fans. It also isn't outlandish to suggest that he put up more points in his current situation than he would have in most other places. That's why it was his best season to date in terms of points per game. That's not a knock on him. Literally everyone plays better when they play with better players, so I don't know why you are upset about it.
The reality is the oilers will likely have Klefbom back on PP-1 once he is back. If he isn't then Nurse will fill that hole while Bouchard grows into the position. Either way Barrie will be a luxury that the oilers cannot afford.
I’m not upset, I just enjoy debating so I apologize for coming off as offended if that was the case.
I don't know Tyson doesn't strike me as a dummy, he knows he might be able to get a big pay day but I think he's testing FA to get all the offers on the table. If Edmonton made an offer and is $500,000 less than another team....
That's a completely fair statement. I know Barrie is no dummy. He took a deal with Edmonton last year because he knew it was one of the best places to play up his value after the Toronto debacle. He has done that in spectacular fashion. He has earned a big contract, and will probably get it. But I do agree, if Edmonton offers him something comparable, he still might re-sign here. He knows he is in a good situation here. Signing with another team might be guaranteed money, but at the same time, losing sucks, playing for a team where you don't fit in sucks, and being the scapegoat for a team not meeting its targets sucks. All things that are not likely to happen in Edmonton, but possible on other teams that he may not fit in on.
They won't. Holland has a history of overpaying depth role players, which does suck, but he certainly doesn't have a history of overpaying his blueline, ha ha.
I don’t recall any of the usual media pundits speculating on that yet. If I was putting my GM hat on, I wouldn’t go over $5M x3 or $4.5Mx4. And yes, I fully realize he’d have to be CRAZY to take that. Hear me out: I am assuming we re-sign Adam Larsson. The will seems to be there from both sides so we’ll call that a fait accompli. So if we sign Barrie, we have to trade either Bear or Bouchard. Neither Bear nor Bouchard are as good as Barrie, but Bear is on a very reasonable contract and Bouchard is on his ELC. Spending more than my offer and foregoing the cheap minutes Bear and Bouchard will provide means less money for a goalie, a LW, and either Nuge or Nuge’s replacement (not to mention Nurse the year after). So that’s my line in the sand.
These are in line with the numbers I shared earlier in the thread too. Like you said, this summer we need two top six forwards (Nuge and a new pickup, or two new pickups if Nuge leaves), a starting (and maybe a backup) goalie, a RD (Larsson likely re-signing should cover that). Financially, its pretty simple for Edmonton, unless we start getting into buyouts or finding a taker for Koskinen.
