Tyson Barrie Discussion Thread

[hullsy47]

He was acquired simply because he is a righty, other considerations were ignored for some reason. He is not a good fit here at all. I was skeptical but I was willing to give this a chance. Now after watching him for the whole season so far, he is a horrible fit. Why do we need another "Gardiner?" We need another Muzzin. I don't understand the obsession with handedness either.

Babcock told everyone who would listen
He didn't fit
I agree

 

[LeafingTheWay]

I just checked.

Barrie is the 12th ranked RHD in the league in points.
Ahead of Seth Jones #13, Eckblad #14, and Drew Doughty #17


He's 6th in the league under Keefe

Not too shabby.

I just want him to be a bit more defensively defensive too.

Agreed. He had a good game against Arizona as well, hopefully he continues that play defensively and offensively.

 

[frizzer1]

Barrie can not be traded as long as Rielly is out.
Unless they get someone else who can run the pp and they won’t gamble on Sandin doing it at 19.

 

[A1LeafNation]

He good.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I just checked.

Barrie is the 12th ranked RHD in the league in points.
Ahead of Seth Jones #13, Eckblad #14, and Drew Doughty #17


He's 6th in the league under Keefe

Not too shabby.

I just want him to be a bit more defensively defensive too.

This is exactly why we need to capitalize and trade him prior to the deadline. He's a surplus requirement on our team and we need to improve our defensive acumen and physicality on the blueline.

 

[LeafingTheWay]

This is exactly why we need to capitalize and trade him prior to the deadline. He's a surplus requirement on our team and we need to improve our defensive acumen and physicality on the blueline.

The issue with that is no one can replace Barrie's offensive play right now. Rielly is equivalent to Barrie offensively, but he's out long-term and scheduled to return only for the playoffs (most likely).

So if you trade Barrie, you're relying on Sandin to be the go-to defenseman when they're trailing or tied in a game. Can he handle that already? Barrie plays the most on the team when the Leafs are trailing and need to score a goal, hence the riskiness that all offensive D have. If Rielly were here, I would agree completely with you. But I don't think there's any chance we can expect Sandin/Lilijegren/Dermott to be the go-to D. Barrie averages nearly 23 minutes a game in the past 20 games.

 

[bonjovi0308]

The issue with that is no one can replace Barrie's offensive play right now. Rielly is equivalent to Barrie offensively, but he's out long-term and scheduled to return only for the playoffs (most likely).

So if you trade Barrie, you're relying on Sandin to be the go-to defenseman when they're trailing or tied in a game. Can he handle that already? Barrie plays the most on the team when the Leafs are trailing and need to score a goal, hence the riskiness that all offensive D have. If Rielly were here, I would agree completely with you. But I don't think there's any chance we can expect Sandin/Lilijegren/Dermott to be the go-to D. Barrie averages nearly 23 minutes a game in the past 20 games.

Please don't tell me the Leafs have been a good defensive team in the past 20 games.

 

[LeafingTheWay]

Please don't tell me the Leafs have been a good defensive team in the past 20 games.

They haven't.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Agreed. He had a good game against Arizona as well, hopefully he continues that play defensively and offensively.

If he can replicate the Zona game, most nights, then I would keep him. Lets see if he plays the same way again tonight. When he plays hard on puck in his own end he can play on my team. But that was 1st game all year I saw that effort to win back pucks in his own end. Lets hope it is a trend. No one can complain last game he was only defensive group with no goals against.

 

[Clark4Ever]

The issue with that is no one can replace Barrie's offensive play right now. Rielly is equivalent to Barrie offensively, but he's out long-term and scheduled to return only for the playoffs (most likely).

So if you trade Barrie, you're relying on Sandin to be the go-to defenseman when they're trailing or tied in a game. Can he handle that already? Barrie plays the most on the team when the Leafs are trailing and need to score a goal, hence the riskiness that all offensive D have. If Rielly were here, I would agree completely with you. But I don't think there's any chance we can expect Sandin/Lilijegren/Dermott to be the go-to D. Barrie averages nearly 23 minutes a game in the past 20 games.

It's a trade off. We lose a bit of offensive productivity short term by replacing his minutes with our other defencemen, but we should concede fewer goals against in those minutes as well.

 

[LeafingTheWay]

If he can replicate the Zona game, most nights, then I would keep him. Lets see if he plays the same way again tonight. When he plays hard on puck in his own end he can play on my team. But that was 1st game all year I saw that effort to win back pucks in his own end. Lets hope it is a trend. No one can complain last game he was only defensive group with no goals against.

Yeah he's a very polarizing player. He's been below-average defensively all-season long, but his offense has been fantastic. If he can at least be average defensively, then he's a great guy to keep (especially at 2.5M for this season).

 

[Matte99]

Barrie was good against Dallas.

 

[MyBudJT]

Barrie was good against Dallas.

You must have a loose definition of good.

 

[justafan22]

They can't trade him unless they're getting a RHD back since he's filling Rielly's minutes.

 

[yubbers]

Point totals aren't exactly relevant statistics when we're talking about a guy who is stats padding at the expense of competent defensive play...

especially when they're 60% 2As and you get all kinds of PP time.

 

[yubbers]

He skating around the ice grumbling all the time and cursing his way to the bench and shaking his head. He needs to shake his head too. Maybe he should go out and lay some people out if he’s that P!ssed all the time. Scared he might have to fight or something probably. He’d rather Gauthier do that for him or something ha. Bunch of cream puffs

He's playing for himself imho. His lack of production is costing him money and he's thinking about it. Hence all the dumb clappers he's been taking to clear the zone for an odd man rush. He's really forcing it out there.

 

[Duffman955]

This guy has all secondary assists.

His offense is shit

His defense is an abomination

 

[JT AM da real deal]

This guy has all secondary assists.

His offense is ****

His defense is an abomination

How can a guy go from that Zona game to that Stars game?????????????????????????????????????????? I am very frustrated. It is clear he has the courage in him. D*mn it I guess his heart is in Vancouver or for his 8M per. It is not here. This yoyo has to stop.

 

[Matte99]

You must have a loose definition of good.

He wasn't bad, he took the puck out of the zone on multiple occasions under control with strength. If you compare to other Ds he seemed to be a step above. I didnt watch the game vs Montreal, but i felt he was stable yesterday compared to others.

 

[IPS]

He's playing for himself imho. His lack of production is costing him money and he's thinking about it. Hence all the dumb clappers he's been taking to clear the zone for an odd man rush. He's really forcing it out there.

If this really is the case our coaching staff needs to identify this and fix it.

 

[Clark4Ever]

He's playing for himself imho. His lack of production is costing him money and he's thinking about it. Hence all the dumb clappers he's been taking to clear the zone for an odd man rush. He's really forcing it out there.

Agreed 100%. He's playing for his next contract, and he knows it's not going to be with us.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

He's playing for himself imho. His lack of production is costing him money and he's thinking about it. Hence all the dumb clappers he's been taking to clear the zone for an odd man rush. He's really forcing it out there.

You see it also . He’s terrible Leafers. I would rather Bogosian type that scores no points and looks after defense. Bogosian can’t be worse

 

[LeafingTheWay]

You see it also . He’s terrible Leafers. I would rather Bogosian type that scores no points and looks after defense. Bogosian can’t be worse

Bogosian is literally a 1000 times worse.

"Grass is always greener on the other side"

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Bogosian is literally a 1000 times worse.

"Grass is always greener on the other side"

Cheap big body RHD. Physical and not a chicken ####

 

[LeafingTheWay]

Cheap big body RHD. Physical and not a chicken ####

He's a garbage puck-mover, always stuck in his own zone.

I would take Barrie at his worst over that guy lol.