Player Discussion Tyler Benson

[McFlyingV]

Needed to give Benson some love for this filthy perfectly timed sauce to spring Callahan. I will always believe in a guy with high hockey IQ and superb playmaking skills.

 

[Stoneman89]

That was some sweet dish.

 

[iCanada]

I mean... 4 points in the elimination game of a playoff series... I'll take it.

^_^

 

[McFlyingV]

I mean... 4 points in the elimination game of a playoff series... I'll take it.

^_^

He only had 2 points, but both were well deserved. The filthy pass above, and a nice curl at the blue line to find Lagesson as the trailer on Malone's goal.

 

[ImmuneEH]

I really hope that if Benson can't crack the top 6 next year, that we just leave him in Bakersfield instead.

 

[Faelko]

I really hope that if Benson can't crack the top 6 next year, that we just leave him in Bakersfield instead.

If I was making the decision I’d leave him in Bakersfield but he’d be my first callup when injuries hit. The year after you find a spot for him in the top 9.

 

[FlameChampion]

I am glad that he had a healthy year. I hope he has a good offseason. He should be a surefire NHL'er if he keeps improving on his current trajectory.

 

[McTonyBrar]

If I was making the decision I’d leave him in Bakersfield but he’d be my first callup when injuries hit. The year after you find a spot for him in the top 9.

more like he competes for it and earns it. No players should be gifted spots. Not anymore. One of the reasons our teams have failed before

 

[Tobias Kahun]

more like he competes for it and earns it. No players should be gifted spots. Not anymore. One of the reasons our teams have failed before

At some point you have to make room for younger players and let them compete amongst themselves, you can't have a roster of 25 players just to let some players compete for it.

 

[Faelko]

more like he competes for it and earns it. No players should be gifted spots. Not anymore. One of the reasons our teams have failed before

Of course he has to earn it, I'm assuming he keeps progressing like he has but you still have to have a plan to fit your younger guys in. At some point he'll have to clear waivers.

 

[joestevens29]

At some point you have to make room for younger players and let them compete amongst themselves, you can't have a roster of 25 players just to let some players compete for it.

Did you not watch last year? We gave far too many guys shots because we had no other option. The average team used 29.2 players last year. We used 36. Average team used 6.7 rookies we had 9.

 

[McSendy]

I still just can't get excited about Benson. Please, somebody convince me that he's more than a poor man's Sam Gagner.

 

[Llamamoto]

I still just can't get excited about Benson. Please, somebody convince me that he's more than a poor man's Sam Gagner.

His passing + IQ + defence are all 10x better than Benson. They're completely different players.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

His passing + IQ + defence are all 10x better than Benson. They're completely different players.

Wut

 

[oXo Cube]

His passing + IQ + defence are all 10x better than Benson. They're completely different players.

Well if Sam Gagner's defense is 10x better than Benson then this thread is 5 pages deep about a nothing player so I sure hope not.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

His passing + IQ + defence are all 10x better than Benson. They're completely different players.

I think you mistyped that.

I still just can't get excited about Benson. Please, somebody convince me that he's more than a poor man's Sam Gagner.

Why poor man's? Now that you mention it, they're actually pretty similar players. Vision and passing are their strong suits, skating not so much. The biggest difference I see is that

I don't see why that's a bad thing though. Gagner was a consistent 40-50 point player, and was on pace for 65 in the lockout-shortened season. If Benson becomes a player like that we should be pleased.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

His passing + IQ + defence are all 10x better than Benson. They're completely different players.

Pretty sure you meant Gagner

But if we get 40-50 points a season out of Benson we should be happy.

 

[Llamamoto]

Wut

Well if Sam Gagner's defense is 10x better than Benson then this thread is 5 pages deep about a nothing player so I sure hope not.

Typo. I meant Benson's passing, IQ, and defense are 10x better than Gagner's.

 

[oXo Cube]

Typo. I meant Benson's passing, IQ, and defense are 10x better than Gagner's.

Well if that's true then Tyler Benson is the second coming of Wayne Gretzky so I sure hope so.

 

[McSendy]

I'd be very happy if Benson ever becomes what Gagner was. I doubt it will happen though.

Gagner:
17 yo season OHL: 53 gp 35-83-118 (NHLe = 0.68 ppg)
18 yo season NHL: 79 gp 13-36-49 (0.62 ppg)
20 yo season NHL: 68 gp 15-26-41 (0.60 ppg)

Benson:
17 yo season WHL: 33 gp 11-31-42 (NHLe = 0.39 ppg)
18 yo season WHL: 58 gp 27-42-69 (NHLe = 0.37 ppg)
20 yo season AHL: 68 gp 15-51-66 (NHLe = 0.45 ppg)

 

[Aerchon]

I'd be very happy if Benson ever becomes what Gagner was. I doubt it will happen though.

Gagner:
17 yo season OHL: 53 gp 35-83-118 (NHLe = 0.68 ppg)
18 yo season NHL: 79 gp 13-36-49 (0.62 ppg)
20 yo season NHL: 68 gp 15-26-41 (0.60 ppg)

Benson:
17 yo season WHL: 33 gp 11-31-42 (NHLe = 0.39 ppg)
18 yo season WHL: 58 gp 27-42-69 (NHLe = 0.37 ppg)
20 yo season AHL: 68 gp 15-51-66 (NHLe = 0.45 ppg)

Gagner is as one dimensional as it gets. So while its unlikely he ever hits Gagner offense I hope he can become an nhler that can have a bigger impact in a 200 foot manner.

 

[Barrsy]

Typo. I meant Benson's passing, IQ, and defense are 10x better than Gagner's.

This is funny.

 

[Canovin]

I'd be very happy if Benson ever becomes what Gagner was. I doubt it will happen though.

Gagner:
17 yo season OHL: 53 gp 35-83-118 (NHLe = 0.68 ppg)
18 yo season NHL: 79 gp 13-36-49 (0.62 ppg)
20 yo season NHL: 68 gp 15-26-41 (0.60 ppg)

Benson:
17 yo season WHL: 33 gp 11-31-42 (NHLe = 0.39 ppg)
18 yo season WHL: 58 gp 27-42-69 (NHLe = 0.37 ppg)
20 yo season AHL: 68 gp 15-51-66 (NHLe = 0.45 ppg)

Gagner blossomed early and started to suck midway. Why are we comparing the two? Benson has only gotten better.

 

[Bangers]

I'd be very happy if Benson ever becomes what Gagner was. I doubt it will happen though.

Gagner:
17 yo season OHL: 53 gp 35-83-118 (NHLe = 0.68 ppg)
18 yo season NHL: 79 gp 13-36-49 (0.62 ppg)
20 yo season NHL: 68 gp 15-26-41 (0.60 ppg)

Benson:
17 yo season WHL: 33 gp 11-31-42 (NHLe = 0.39 ppg)
18 yo season WHL: 58 gp 27-42-69 (NHLe = 0.37 ppg)
20 yo season AHL: 68 gp 15-51-66 (NHLe = 0.45 ppg)

I remember years back this same stat line being used to justify why Gagner was a better player than Couture. I think it even had an extra year or two on it.

Not saying Benson is Couture, but 17-20 year old seasons very rarely predict a player's top end upside.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

It's been awhile and maybe I misheard but was Benson given exceptional status at one point for Jrs? I thought I remember that in a radio conversation. He may have some legit secret sauce potential before being developmentally derailed by injuries.

It's weird being excited from not having a completely disappointing prospect pool.