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That's what i've been trying to figure out.
It's hard since none of us know who says what, how much sway they have. We know MB hired Churla and he's the director of scouting but what does that mean since Timmins last had that job and he's the one giving interviews on our picks. But who's to say if MB wanted York and he was there would he have overridden Timmins or Churla? Or what if he and Churla wanted him and Timmins wanted Caufield what would happen? We can't know so it makes it very hard to say.
I know Gainey said that he didn't make the picks that that's why he had scouts or something to that effect. But we know Andre Savard was a former scout and so was Goat so it would be logical to assume they were more involved then Gainey. MB though that's tougher, he brings in Churla for the '13 draft and all the sudden we are drafting big guys and years later Timmins says they made a mistake going for size. But who's call was that? Was it Timmins or MB or MB and Churla?
Many on here have been very local about Timmins but I don't think they put things in the right context. If you go into each draft expecting to fail, since that's what is more likely to happen to most once you start getting past the top 15, 30, 50 etc... Of course you will get some NHLers but every team is going to f*** up at the draft sooner or later. The top drafting teams I would say do it less and the poor drafting teams like the oilers can't seem to get out of their own way. Maybe now that they have a gm that understands scouting things will change.
There was a vid posted in the previous Timmins thread from a Flames or Nucks scout or whatever team but he talked about how few players a draft class will yield in a average year. Players that play over 300 NHL games, and how it's not a high number, 30 or 40 as I'd have to go back and watch it but my point is that with the draft you are going to miss a lot especially if you are picking so few in the top 10, or 30 or 50. From '03 to '12 Timmins has 20 guys appear in over 300 NHL games and that number will go up a good bit as the more recent drafts hit the NHL. We clearly did not help our prospects as well as we should have in our development system and both levels of coaching. There have been several good picks, bad picks, some home runs, some WTF? picks. Clearly we have struggled badly picking from Sweden and the Q under Timmins and he along with each GM should have looked at why and done a better job fixing it.