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- Apr 17, 2017
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I’m sure a lot of the people here hated the Poehling pick because they didn’t think it was a home run swing..: and after all that it might be a home run after all.
I don't care about their "floors" go for the highest ceiling and don't look back.For sure, but both have value. I think Boldy would fit in perfectly with this group. Big dude with hella sweet hands. Sadly we'd have to wait another year for that game-breaking forward.
I really want the Habs to start taking stupid swings at game-breakers. Reway style. I don't even care if they all bust, I think the quality/quantity of our pool is such that home-runs are possible now.
We should start documenting what players are the home-run type in the 30-250 range from now on, IMO.
Not sure it's a homerrun, but it's a good pick.I’m sure a lot of the people here hated the Poehling pick because they didn’t think it was a home run swing..: and after all that it might be a home run after all.
Not sure it's a homerrun, but it's a good pick.
The thing is RIGHT NOW, the prospect pool is so deep and the team is young so we can afford to not go for guys like Poehling or Olofsson or Bitten.
I'm not even talking possible 2C or like possible 1B type like Poehling, I'm talking full-fledged 50 goal scorer 80 points player Gaudreau style. I think a run of a year or two of just straight up slangin' for it like mad could pay. Because really, how else is this team going to acquire THAT talented forward ? UFA, sure... But these guys aren't traded often, unless you can fleece Bowman to get the Breadman.
He literally said "there's no such thing as a homerun type" then proceeded to describe a homerun type.I'll tell you what is NOT a home-run type.
Adam Samuelsson
Jacob Olofsson
Jacob De La Rose
Connor Crisp
Brett Lernout
Meanwhile
Martin Reway
Jesse Ylonen
Ruslan Ishkakov
Just a few names.
Make the draft better again with Timmins. Once for all, turn that page of bad picks and busts. Yet the pipeline is not full at the maximum. Gotta fill it out thoroughly.Point being. Trevor Timmins is the common denominator. And, yes, it's fantastic he's finally had another apparent 'home run' draft. But, there hasn't been anything substantial in the pipes for.. almost a decade? Producing Roughly 15 solid roster players internally since 2005. A handful playing minor roles in other organizations. And, there you go. 2007. The last draft of substance. I just hope he has another big draft this year. Because 3 consecutive years of a solid draft is huge for this club. Solid nucleus to come up the pipeline together.
I'll tell you what is NOT a home-run type.
Adam Samuelsson
Jacob Olofsson
Jacob De La Rose
Connor Crisp
Brett Lernout
Meanwhile
Martin Reway
Jesse Ylonen
Ruslan Ishkakov
Just a few names.
He literally said "there's no such thing as a homerun type" then proceeded to describe a homerun type.
High upside, high risk. There's clearly players that have higher upside than others but less certainty to them. I don't think that's up for debate.You proved my point if you look at the attributes I stated. There is no homerun type because this is a POST DRAFT analysis. When you draft, you think each of your choices can be a homerun, obviously.
High upside, high risk. There's clearly players that have higher upside than others but less certainty to them. I don't think that's up for debate.
Do you disagree that some players are drafted to be 3rd liners and others to be superstars?
Who says Gally was drafted for 3rd line ?Yes. The upside is really unknown. They can set expectations all they want (and this is where HF is getting confused), but really, if you are a in competitive situation (in the scout's head), you want to get Luc Robitaille or Brendan Gallagher every single time. Each player type can result into a homerun of sorts. We drafted Gallagher to be a 3rd liner, yet he became a first liner. He's a homerun. His draft projections were wrong.
Who says Gally was drafted for 3rd line ?
Thats lazy. Gallagher had a 1.2 PPG in the regular season and a 1.32 PPG in the PO's in his draft year. He also scored 40 goals, on a team with low offensive support. HF gave him a 7.5 score, on their old ranking. That's not third line.
Do you really believe Timmins expected Robitaille out of DLR, Crisp and McCarron ? I understand what you're saying. You want every player to hit the highest potential, but thats just ridiculous to think it's reality, a "ceiling" is something very real.
What no lol, literally no potential is greater than a 40 goal scorer. Maybe a 60 points D.I remember Gally being described by most scouts as a great "potential energy line" player.
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Sure, the ceiling for Crisp was what, Probert?
Sure, the ceiling for McCarron was what, Primeau or Young Lucic?
My point is, different ceiling types are equally valuable as a 40 goal scorer.
True, but key word here is might be and also may not be and if that is the case then the story continues with Timmy boyI’m sure a lot of the people here hated the Poehling pick because they didn’t think it was a home run swing..: and after all that it might be a home run after all.
You proved my point if you look at the attributes I stated. There is no homerun type because this is a POST DRAFT analysis. When you draft, you think each of your choices can be a homerun, obviously.
What no lol, literally no potential is greater than a 40 goal scorer. Maybe a 60 points D.
I taught he was supposed to haunt Bergevin
Wasted picks is the norm....there are 100 Staums in every draftProbably just draft another Koberstein, or Staum with it. Waste if a pick from the get go.
and there is 100's and 100's of wasted pick by all teams every yearWasted picks is the norm....there are 100 Staums in every draft
I'll admit I was wrong, but I still stand by the opinion that the organization handled him poorly both in terms of development and asset management.
I taught he was supposed to haunt Bergevin