Trevor Timmins Discussion (Part IV)

JuicyHam · Mar 26, 2019

sandviper said:
Which is why they went to TB... best team.

Yeah everyone wants to be the next Johnson or Gourde or even St Louis

montreal · Mar 26, 2019

Victorius said:
Maybe Habs should spend more time finding kids in the Q like Barré-Boulet, Batherson and Huntingdon.....

I don't have a problem if they start finding good players from Finland as their program certainly seems to be on the rise.

1909 · Mar 26, 2019

montreal said:
I don't have a problem if they start finding good players from Finland as their program certainly seems to be on the rise.

Are you really impressed by Ikonen and Oloffsson ?

1909 · Mar 26, 2019

sandviper said:
Which is why they went to TB... best team.

Best team have access to best overall free players anywhere too..... the kids did not go to TB... TB scouted them and made them an offer.

montreal · Mar 26, 2019

Victorius said:
Are you really impressed by Ikonen and Oloffsson ?

too early to say but Olofsson is Swedish and we have stunk drafting from Sweden as well as the Q.

sandviper · Mar 26, 2019

Victorius said:
Best team have access to best overall free players anywhere too..... the kids did not go to TB... TB scouted them and made them an offer.

Montreal also made them an offer though. No idea if money wise or type (AHL vs NHL) was an issue, but if all things being equal, TB would be a better offer; top team, no income tax, nice weather.

Montreal would have had to over pay.

Mrb1p · Mar 26, 2019

Victorius said:
Are you really impressed by Ikonen and Oloffsson ?

TB would swap Barré and Huntington with Ikonen on any day of the week, if I had to guess.

montreal · Mar 26, 2019

Mrb1p said:
TB would swap Barré and Huntington with Ikonen on any day of the week, if I had to guess.

I don't know Huntington but can't say I agree on Barre-Boulet, he's looked good in the few games i've seen him vs Laval. Leds the team in goals, 2nd in points. I'd certainly trade Ikonen for him at this point.

Mrb1p · Mar 26, 2019

montreal said:
I don't know Huntington but can't say I agree on Barre-Boulet, he's looked good in the few games i've seen him vs Laval. Leds the team in goals, 2nd in points. I'd certainly trade Ikonen for him at this point.

Really? I guess.

montreal · Mar 26, 2019

Mrb1p said:
Really? I guess.

he's having a better year then any Hab prospect has had in the AHL since Subban, granted he's on one of the top teams and he's a year older then our CHL rookies but what a season he's having.

The Great Weal · Mar 30, 2019

G0bias said:
Whoever they pick will need the mental strength of a buddhist monk the way this team p***yfoots around with their high picks.

Which means a hard no for guys like Kaliyev and Suzuki. In fact, everyone's at risk.

Do you guys even really give a shit about the drafts for our team anymore? We suck ass at drafting anyways, but if we can't even develop our 3rd overall pick, I can't be too optimistic about the future.

The Great Weal · Mar 30, 2019

G0bias said:
Honestly Timmins should target 4-5 year projects for all our picks with the outlook current management group might be gone by then.

Timmins should stick with trying to draft someone good. It's been ages since hes done that.

G0bias · Mar 30, 2019

The Great Weise said:
Timmins should stick with trying to draft someone good. It's been ages since hes done that.

He did actually, management can't even commit to him.

The Great Weal · Mar 30, 2019

G0bias said:
He did actually, management can't even commit to him.

Who? McCarron? I don't think it's Sly's fault that McCarron didn't end up being a good player like Theodore who was picked right after him.

Montreal Canadiens Draft History at hockeydb.com

Everything after 2007 besides Gally is just...

G0bias · Mar 30, 2019

The Great Weise said:
Who? McCarron? I don't think it's Sly's fault that McCarron didn't end up being a good player like Theodore who was picked right after him.

Montreal Canadiens Draft History at hockeydb.com

Everything after 2007 besides Gally is just...

who else would I be referring to?

The Great Weise said:
if we can't even develop our 3rd overall pick, I can't be too optimistic about the future.

The Great Weal · Mar 30, 2019

G0bias said:
who else would I be referring to?

I wasnt strictly talking about the 3rd overall. I'm talking about the whole draft.

G0bias · Mar 30, 2019

The Great Weise said:
I wasnt strictly talking about the 3rd overall. I'm talking about the whole draft.

And I was strictly talking about Kotkaniemi. The point you brought up that I quoted says alot. You can have the best scouting team in the business, if there's two idiots to screw it up after them - even as simple a task as committing to your 3rd overall pick- it won't make a difference.

The Great Weal · Mar 30, 2019

G0bias said:
And I was strictly talking about Kotkaniemi. The point you brought up that I quoted says alot. You can have the best scouting team in the business, if there's two idiots to screw it up after them - even as simple a task as committing to your 3rd overall pick- won't make a difference.

Sure, but it also goes the other way. Both drafting and development in Montreal is brutal.

G0bias · Mar 30, 2019

The Great Weise said:
Sure, but it also goes the other way. Both drafting and development in Montreal is brutal.

Never said or implied otherwise.

The Great Weal · Mar 30, 2019

G0bias said:
Never said otherwise.

You said Timmins should be looking for projects that are 4-5 years away with each pick. I dont think he should do that as he cant even draft well as it is. It's not like hes any good at his job.

G0bias · Mar 30, 2019

The Great Weise said:
You said Timmins should be looking for projects that are 4-5 years away with each pick. I dont think he should do that as he cant even draft well as it is. It's not like hes any good at his job.

He can draft whoever he wants, it just won't matter if we can't even commit to our only good one.

yianik · Mar 30, 2019

sandviper said:
Montreal also made them an offer though. No idea if money wise or type (AHL vs NHL) was an issue, but if all things being equal, TB would be a better offer; top team, no income tax, nice weather.

Montreal would have had to over pay.

And Tampa Bay plays offensive kids in offensive roles and doesnt staple their butts to a wall when they make defensive lapses. So any kid who has skill should take an offer from Tampa over Montreal, stacked as Tampa may be.

Hins77 · Mar 31, 2019

Imo. Boisvert and audette, amateur scout in quebec. They just dont have enough weight. Is it normal that the only players from q is on the 6 of 7th round? Lol. No. I talked with a scout in the q and your statut coming important when you asbsolutely want a player that you missed and he become a good player. After that, People around the table will listen. You more often

Mrb1p · Mar 31, 2019

Hins77 said:
Imo. Boisvert and audette, amateur scout in quebec. They just dont have enough weight. Is it normal that the only players from q is on the 6 of 7th round? Lol. No. I talked with a scout in the q and your statut coming important when you asbsolutely want a player that you missed and he become a good player. After that, People around the table will listen. You more often

The Q sucked last year

Mrb1p · Mar 31, 2019

The Great Weise said:
You said Timmins should be looking for projects that are 4-5 years away with each pick. I dont think he should do that as he cant even draft well as it is. It's not like hes any good at his job.

Mete, Sergachev, Kotkaniemi, Galchenyuk, Lekhonen, Beaulieu are all NHL players though.

Are you still denying that Mete has been good?

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