Trevor Timmins Discussion (Part IV)

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I've said it a million times or so it feels like so I'll likely say it a million more but my opinion has been that ALL involved share the blame in why for those 6 years we couldn't develop young players. Everyone of them was rushed to the NHL at 19/20 outside of Scherbak who missed over a year of development time to injury and was handled likely the worst i've ever seen for a 1st round skilled prospect. We all saw the MT shuffle, Beaulieu or whoever gets called up, put on the bottom pairing/line, makes costly mistake, ends up in the press box for days on end, gets sent back to the AHL, struggles in the AHL.

Timmins admitted making mistakes in the past, the hope is that he's learned from them and in the very early stages there are at least good signs from the '16-'18 drafts, which also had some of the most and highest picks unlike the bad years of '08-'15 which saw the least amount of picks and least amount of top 70ish picks aside from some generally poor overall draft classes.

The players themselves have their share of blame for not improving in the areas that they needed to improve. There's lots of blame to go and we can beat a dead horse over who's more at fault but it won't change anything. The hope is that management finally woke up and smelled the roses, saw that there was a big problem and finally made changes to the development system. Next season is going to be a huge test for them, to see if they revert to old ways and rush 20 year olds to the NHL or do they let them get time in the AHL to adjust and NOT to call them up before they show they are ready even if it means we don't win games/make the playoffs. Do what's best for our future, not try to get a few more points that in the end won't do much for us in terms of the big picture.
 

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Josh Brook tied as top scoring defenceman in the WHL regular season, having played fewer games as well.

WHL Defenceman of the Year – Bill Hunter Memorial Trophy

RUNNER UP: Josh Brook – Moose Jaw Warriors
 
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Can't find the link anymore but Suzuki is a top 5 point getter in OHL playoffs looking at the past 10 years.
 

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Can't find the link anymore but Suzuki is a top 5 point getter in OHL playoffs looking at the past 10 years.

Last 10 seasons, top 10 play-off performances

Connor McDavid 49 points
Mitch Marner 44 points
Nick Suzuki 42 points
Matthew Tkachuk 40 points
Alex DeBrincat 38 points
Taylor Hall 36 points
Taylor Hall 35 points
Dylan Strome 34 points
Taylor Raddysh 34 points
Robert Thomas 32 points
 
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This year has been absolutely amazing for the Habs prospect.

Here is the list of notable accomplishments by the Habs prospect (as of today):

  • Kotkaniemi: Youngest player in the NHL; 34 pts in 79 games playing center
  • Romanov: voted best D in the U-18 World Championship
  • Poehling: voted MVP in the U-18 World Championship; scored a hat trick + shootout in first NHL game
  • Primeau: voted best G in the U-18 World Championship; won Mike Richter award for Top goalie in NCAA; won the William Flynn Award for MVP in the NCAA in the Hockey East tournament; earned a spot in Team USA at the 2019 World Hockey Championship
  • Suzuki: Top scorer (goals and pts) in the OHL playoffs; received the William Hanley Trophy for OHL most sportsman like player for the 3rd time; voted smartest player of the OHL Western conference
  • Teasdale: Top pointer in the Q playoffs

Moderators, feel free to merge this in the right thread. I felt like making a new one to really highlight how our top prospects have been nothing short of amazing this year. Any other accomplishment worth mentioning?
Our farm system is outstanding. But did you mean U18 or WJC?
 

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Last 10 seasons, top 10 play-off performances

Connor McDavid 49 points
Mitch Marner 44 points
Matthew Tkachuk 40 points
Nick Suzuki 39 points
Alex DeBrincat 38 points
Taylor Hall 36 points
Taylor Hall 35 points
Dylan Strome 34 points
Taylor Raddysh 34 points
Robert Thomas 32 points
What about Scheifele?
 

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Here are the two I paid attention to (because I could find online Playoff streams):

- Teasdale is a very good player, will surprise most of you next year (will probably play in Laval but could cause a surprise at training camp.) He could easily become a top 9 player and has the potential to become a very strong top 6 player. He's the total package IMO, hockey sense, skating, good hands, decent shot. Scores most of his goals by getting his nose dirty and reading the play at a very high level (think Gallagher). Is not super tall at 6' but has broad shoulders, is surprisingly strong and is great at protecting the puck. Not flashy but very effective. Also posses a very mature 2 way game.

Will probably become an NHLer. Will he be a bottom six or top six player? That is the question...

- Suzuki is very impressive, amazing hockey IQ and a lethal shot. Gotta work on his skating but this aspect of his game is blown out of proportion by some, he easily out-skates a vast majority of players his age. This kid is very smart and sees the play at an extremely high level. It sometimes almost look like he has an overhead view of the entire ice. Makes some amazing passes, scores spectacular goals but IMO, where he shines the most, is in all the little plays. An expert at passing the puck where there is little to no space, banking them off the boards, using body cues to trap opponent (Like fake dropping his shoulder when controlling the puck,). Also, he's literally carrying his team through a crazy play-off run; showing he's a gamer and can raise his level of play when push comes to shove.

Suzuki could be fail becoming an NHLer if he decides to only rely on his talent. However, whenever I see him in interviews, he appears to be very serious about improving his game and seems like the type of guy who eats hockey for breakfast.

Overall, with those two and Poehling, Primeau and whoever can cause a surprise, looks like the Habs are going to be very dangerous... in 2021...

Please be patient.
 
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I think we can speak of our big 5 (6 if you include KK). All of these players should be really good NHLers. Nothing guaranteed though. Plus the next 5 also have upside.

1. KK
2. Poehling
3. Suzuki
4. Romanov
5. Brook
6. Primeau

The rest: Ylonen, Ikonen, Fleury, Harris, etc...
 

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Last 10 seasons, top 10 play-off performances

Connor McDavid 49 points
Mitch Marner 44 points
Matthew Tkachuk 40 points
Nick Suzuki 39 points
Alex DeBrincat 38 points
Taylor Hall 36 points
Taylor Hall 35 points
Dylan Strome 34 points
Taylor Raddysh 34 points
Robert Thomas 32 points

Yeah, thats a pretty decent list of players. We might have a good one.
 

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Yeah, thats a pretty decent list of players. We might have a good one.

I honestly think it will all come down to his skating. If he can keep up with the play, he'll find a way to produce. It may take a few years of development, but he'll find a way. We may have to be patient and let him ferment in Laval for a couple years.
 

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Last 10 seasons, top 10 play-off performances

Connor McDavid 49 points
Mitch Marner 44 points
Matthew Tkachuk 40 points
Nick Suzuki 39 points
Alex DeBrincat 38 points
Taylor Hall 36 points
Taylor Hall 35 points
Dylan Strome 34 points
Taylor Raddysh 34 points
Robert Thomas 32 points
Quite a filthy list ;)
 
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I'd be curious to see how he compares CHL wise too.

4th in scoring in the last 10 years CHL wise.

08-09 Yannick Riendeau 52 points
14-15 Connor McDavid 49 points
15-16 Mitch Marner 44 points
18-19 Nick Suzuki 42 points

Extending to all-time:
5 players from the WHL had 42 or more points. Last two in 1998-1999 (Pavel Brendl and Brad Moran).
10 players from the OHL had 42 or more points. 5 since 2000.
23 players from the QMJHL had 42 or more points. 6 since 2000.

So a top40 PO all-time points wise and top12 since 2000.
 
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