Pre-Game Talk: Training Camp Roster and Schedule

[Mobiandi]

I mean no matter what happens, there are gonna be convenient excuses to wave away the thought of calling up Wolf. At the end of the day, the Saddledome (probably) won’t collapse if we gift a rookie spot regardless of what happens in training camp. But the Flames haven’t figured that out yet.

“Don’t need a repeat of the distracting 3-headed goalie monster”

“We started the season well, why change what’s working?”

“We can’t sell low on Vladar, it’s poor asset management”

“Why sell high when Vladar’s playing well? Wait until the summer”

“Just need to wait for Markstrom to shake off the rust, he’s a seasoned vet and we’re stuck with him. Might as well show faith in him”

“It’s too much pressure to put on a rookie goalie to save our season. Let him dominate in the A and get a deep playoff run there and there’ll be a spot for him next season”

 

[Kranix]

Both of you have gone off the deep end with this. You must be trolling at this point, or you've become so poisoned by what you wrongly perceive as the Flames keeping young players down, you've abandoned reason.

 

[TheHudlinator]

Both of you have gone off the deep end with this. You must be trolling at this point, or you've become so poisoned by what you wrongly perceive as the Flames keeping young players down, you've abandoned reason.

I think we can have a legit discussion about the best way to develop a player without accusing others of trolling because they disagree.

I genuinely can't believe as a team we had under a .900 sv% and we aren't trying anything different this year.

 

[Kranix]

I think we can have a legit discussion about the best way to develop a player without accusing others of trolling because they disagree.

I genuinely can't believe as a team we had under a .900 sv% and we aren't trying anything different this year.

You wanted to package a 1st with Markstrom to facilitate handing the starter job to Wolf. It has to be a joke, or you've lost credibility in thr debate.

 

[TheHudlinator]

You wanted to package a 1st with Markstrom to facilitate handing the starter job to Wolf. It has to be a joke, or you've lost credibility in thr debate.

You must be confused never once have I suggested anything like that. I'd trade Vlad for whatever we can

 

[super6646]

Both of you have gone off the deep end with this. You must be trolling at this point, or you've become so poisoned by what you wrongly perceive as the Flames keeping young players down, you've abandoned reason.

You legitimately cannot have a reasonable discussion with ppl you disagree with. Over and over again just resorting to personal jabs.

There’s nothing unreasonable with what those two are saying (well besides the point about moving a first, but otherwise lol). You can’t know what you have if he isn’t given a shot, simple as that.

 

[Kranix]

Over and over again just resorting to personal jabs.

Nope. That's your M.O. though.

You must be confused never once have I suggested anything like that. I'd trade Vlad for whatever we can

Go peruse your post history if you can't remember saying stuff.

 

[TheHudlinator]

Go peruse your post history if you can't remember saying stuff.

I legit have never said it, show me proof or just admit you got me confused.

 

[Kranix]

I legit have never said it, show me proof or just admit you got me confused.

Pre-Game Talk: - Training Camp Roster and Schedule

Sharangovich is so proven that he can look like shit in pre season and still justify his value That’s delusional. Early indications are not good.

forums.hfboards.com

To be honest I'd easily give up a first to help Wolf take the next step

 

[TheHudlinator]

Pre-Game Talk: - Training Camp Roster and Schedule

Sharangovich is so proven that he can look like shit in pre season and still justify his value That’s delusional. Early indications are not good.

forums.hfboards.com

That post was about vlad Markstrom want even mentioned

 

[Kranix]

That post was about vlad Markstrom want even mentioned

You have been harping on the sub-.900 goaltending which is both of them. But that's even worse, if you meant Vladar. Holy shit. Sincere apologies. I assumed you meant Markstrom.

There’s nothing unreasonable with what those two are sayingYou can’t know what you have if he isn’t given a shot, simple as that.

So you should orchestrate a team's plans around one prospect? Give Wolf the starter job because you might lose multiple defensemen the next season? Is that reasonable?

 

[Lunatik]

this argument has jumped the shark

 

[TheHudlinator]

You were harping on the sub-.900 goaltending which is both of them. But that's even worse, if you meant Vladar. Holy shit. Sincere apologies. I assumed you meant Markstrom.

No I was told vlad could be worth a 2nd if we waited to move him instead of taking what we could now, I was saying even if he was worth a first if we waited I'd move vlad now for what we can. Wolf is that good

 

[Kranix]

No I was told vlad could be worth a 2nd if we waited to move him instead of taking what we could now, I was saying even if he was worth a first if we waited I'd move vlad now for what we can. Wolf is that good

You said you'd gladly give up a first. Poor wording.

 

[TheHudlinator]

You said you'd gladly give up a first. Poor wording.

Agreed but we were talking about what vlad was worth but yes that's my bad

 

[Lunatik]

In like 15 minutes we are going to see TONS on guys placed on waivers.

I wonder what we shall do

 

[Anglesmith]

I mean no matter what happens, there are gonna be convenient excuses to wave away the thought of calling up Wolf. At the end of the day, the Saddledome (probably) won’t collapse if we gift a rookie spot regardless of what happens in training camp. But the Flames haven’t figured that out yet.

“Don’t need a repeat of the distracting 3-headed goalie monster”

“We started the season well, why change what’s working?”

“We can’t sell low on Vladar, it’s poor asset management”

“Why sell high when Vladar’s playing well? Wait until the summer”

“Just need to wait for Markstrom to shake off the rust, he’s a seasoned vet and we’re stuck with him. Might as well show faith in him”

“It’s too much pressure to put on a rookie goalie to save our season. Let him dominate in the A and get a deep playoff run there and there’ll be a spot for him next season”

This is the equivalent of getting mad at your SO because they messed up in your dream.

 

[Rubi]

I mean no matter what happens, there are gonna be convenient excuses to wave away the thought of calling up Wolf. At the end of the day, the Saddledome (probably) won’t collapse if we gift a rookie spot regardless of what happens in training camp. But the Flames haven’t figured that out yet.

“Don’t need a repeat of the distracting 3-headed goalie monster”

“We started the season well, why change what’s working?”

“We can’t sell low on Vladar, it’s poor asset management”

“Why sell high when Vladar’s playing well? Wait until the summer”

“Just need to wait for Markstrom to shake off the rust, he’s a seasoned vet and we’re stuck with him. Might as well show faith in him”

“It’s too much pressure to put on a rookie goalie to save our season. Let him dominate in the A and get a deep playoff run there and there’ll be a spot for him next season”

Its my belief that Wolf likely won't play a significant number of Flames games unless Markstrom gets injured. I hope I'm wrong but the way I see it Markstrom will play game after game, even if he's playing poorly, because the Flames have invested too much money in him and its so much easier to have Wolf playing in the AHL than have Markstrom, Vladar, and Wolf on the roster. Plus, because of Vladar's play, his trade value is also quite low and we all know the only way his trade value will go up is if he gets to play a number of games and hopefully plays well. Because of this I sadly don't see a lot of opportunity for Wolf.

 

[Lunatik]

Colin White was signed and waived, and Vinnie Hinostroza was waived today too. I'd like to claim both.

 

[Rubi]

I have to admhit that I had high hopes for the Flames going into training camp. There was the coaching change. Although I honestly think they hired the wrong coach. Frankly I think the Flames had so many better options... but thats water under the bridge and I was just excited that Sutter wouldn't be behind the bench any longer given the clusterf*** that last season turned out to be. Next there was the promise of Pelletier becoming a top 6 fwd, Ruzicka grabbing the bull by the horns and showing Sutter he was wrong, Coronato continuing to shine like he did with Harvard, Kylington coming back into the lineup, and Sharangovich proving that he's better than NJ thought he was, and Wolf getting a solid opportunity to win multiple games in the Flames net.
Needless to say, right now my hopes aren't as high.

 

[Mobiandi]

This is the equivalent of getting mad at your SO because they messed up in your dream.

I disagree. The Flames are the most conservative team in the league in terms of graduating prospects (not an opinion, an outright fact in the last 5 years). And so each of those of explanations has been packaged in some form by a contingent of fans to communicate why we should hold off on infusing youth in the line-up.

But while the Flames are busy trying to be patient and perfect a souffle that might get them in a wildcard position, the rest of the league is busy making stews and trying to make the most of limited cap space.

 

[Rubi]

 

[Kranix]

I disagree. The Flames are the most conservative team in the league in terms of graduating prospects (not an opinion, an outright fact in the last 5 years). And so each of those of explanations has been packaged in some form by a contingent of fans to communicate why we should hold off on infusing youth in the line-up.

But while the Flames are busy trying to be patient and perfect a souffle that might get them in a wildcard position, the rest of the league is busy making stews and trying to make the most of limited cap space.

If they don't call up wolf at all, then that's a problem. There's no way they don't though.

 

[super6646]

Nope. That's your M.O. though.


Go peruse your post history if you can't remember saying stuff.

You literally did it in your post. Shameless about it too.

 

[Kranix]

You literally did it in your post. Shameless about it too.

If it's a personal attack to accuse someone of resorting to personal attacks, you did it first.