Proposal: Trade Thread Part 68

[SpeedyPotato]

Makes no sense. Jones is carbon copy of Weber

Exactly, from 10 years ago

Weber has never ever been able to move around like Jones can. I don't see MB ever trading Weber because of his man crush for him, but I'd take Jones over mountain man any day hockey wise right now.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

Two things that go against Montreal:

LANDESKOG IS THE TEAM CAPTAIN
COLORADO HAS CAP SPACE TO RE-SIGN LANDESKOG

One thing going for Montreal or another team pursuing Landeskog:

Bukarovsky can adequately replace Landeskog on the first line and on the first PP wave. That can make COL think twice as the stakes rise in a bidding par for Landeskog.

I believe there is enough cap space if a new things happen:

1) Tatar not re-signed - 4.8m savings
2) Drouin traded without holding back Cap, he retires in shroud of mystery or is taken by Seattle after left unprotected (the tarde-off is Seattle taking Byron in a trade for a 7th round pick - 5.5M savings + 3.4M savings
3) Weber moved without holding back much Cap - 6M savings after cap Held back or bad contract received in exchange being bought out.
4) Calculate 1.475M in savings on lower Allen contract

21.175M savings

Extra costs for Gallagher 2.75M
Extra Cost for Petry .75M
Extra cost for Kotkaniemi 2.6M (3.5M for 3 years)
Looming Costs to Suzuki and Romanov (3.75M more at 4.5M + 2,65M at 3.5M )

Total: 12.75M

Left over for Landeskog:

7.5M + 750K for IR, including incremental raises for Armia and Lehkonen (2.75M, 2.5M).

The D would look something like:

Edmundson - Petry
Chiarot - Romanov
Kulak - Fleury
Guhle, Norlinder, Harris in the wings.

We don't need to move that much stuff, also, Alzner's buyout penalty will take 2m less on the cap next year.

 

[26Mats]

Two things that go against Montreal:

LANDESKOG IS THE TEAM CAPTAIN
COLORADO HAS CAP SPACE TO RE-SIGN LANDESKOG

One thing going for Montreal or another team pursuing Landeskog:

Bukarovsky can adequately replace Landeskog on the first line and on the first PP wave. That can make COL think twice as the stakes rise in a bidding par for Landeskog.

I believe there is enough cap space if a new things happen:

1) Tatar not re-signed - 4.8m savings
2) Drouin traded without holding back Cap, he retires in shroud of mystery or is taken by Seattle after left unprotected (the tarde-off is Seattle taking Byron in a trade for a 7th round pick - 5.5M savings + 3.4M savings
3) Weber moved without holding back much Cap - 6M savings after cap Held back or bad contract received in exchange being bought out.
4) Calculate 1.475M in savings on lower Allen contract

21.175M savings

Extra costs for Gallagher 2.75M
Extra Cost for Petry .75M
Extra cost for Kotkaniemi 2.6M (3.5M for 3 years)
Looming Costs to Suzuki and Romanov (3.75M more at 4.5M + 2,65M at 3.5M )

Total: 12.75M

Left over for Landeskog:

7.5M + 750K for IR, including incremental raises for Armia and Lehkonen (2.75M, 2.5M).

The D would look something like:

Edmundson - Petry
Chiarot - Romanov
Kulak - Fleury
Guhle, Norlinder, Harris in the wings.

If Landeskog makes it to the UFA market, I expect us to be players. He's a MB type of player and now that we've had some playoff success, free agents may want to come here.

But I doubt he makes it to the ufa market, so will only consider him once he actually does.

 

[SakuKoivu11]

Eichel for a Drouin and Romanov

 

[Vachon23]

Eichel for a Drouin and Romanov

You're not even getting Sam Reinhart with that

 

[Mrb1p]

So much crow to eat, so little time.

I am not going to eat any crow because Carey Price decided he would take this burning heap of shit to the Conference finals, he also did it in 2014.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Eichel for a Drouin and Romanov

Why not add Alzner's remaining cap hit to make it more fair?

 

[SakuKoivu11]

You're not even getting Sam Reinhart with that

no but it’s a cap era. You ain’t trading for what the player is worth but what you can fit in the cap.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Why not add Alzner's remaining cap hit to make it more fair?

Eichel's not worth that much...

 

[1909]

I am not going to eat any crow because Carey Price decided he would take this burning heap of shit to the Conference finals, he also did it in 2014.

I think you must !

 

[DAChampion]

Eichel for a Drouin and Romanov

Eichel for Kotkaniemi, 1st in 2021, 1st in 2022, along with Byron, Drouin, and Kulak.

 

[Vachon23]

no but it’s a cap era. You ain’t trading for what the player is worth but what you can fit in the cap.

Your not trading your superstar for a guy that didn’t play the half of the season for personal reason and prospect that hasn’t prove anything yet

 

[Miller Time]

Eichel for Kotkaniemi, 1st in 2021, 1st in 2022, along with Byron, Drouin, and Kulak.

ouff... I'm probably more bullish than most on JKO's ceiling but would be impossible to turn that down given the 3 other contracts it takes off the books and the "right now" bump to the roster Eichel would represent (taking advantage of Price's remaining peak, and Weber/Petry/Gally before they decline further).

on the flip side, while i'm sure some would disagree, i could see that working out as well/better for the Sabres. JKO is going to be very good, if not great. 2x 1st's give them some quality assets, and Drouin/Byron/Kulak are all upgrades to their current roster that they can fit in cap-wise and improve their depth while they rebuild around Dahlin, Cozens, Quinn, Powers, Mittelstad et.

 

[SakuKoivu11]

Your not trading your superstar for a guy that didn’t play the half of the season for personal reason and prospect that hasn’t prove anything yet

highly doubt this. Kotkaniemi is Jordan Staal

 

[1909]

Eichel for Kotkaniemi, 1st in 2021, 1st in 2022, along with Byron, Drouin, and Kulak.

Eichel has a very serious health problem that is not fixed yet. He wants a special surgery on his spine. Buffalo doesn't . But the guy could be on IR for a full season.

 

[Vachon23]

highly doubt this. Kotkaniemi is Jordan Staal

What KK has to do in the conversation ?

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

If we can't acquire a puck moving D through trade, I wouldn't mind going after Alec Martinez on a shorter term deal.

Plays lots of minutes, can skate and move the puck.. would look good beside Weber.

 

[TT1]

This is a good time to take a hard stab at Lindholm in the off-season, we need a LD like him.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

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Normally I would pay no attention to this, but it would explain Toffoli's absolute refusal to pass the puck to CC. I hope this is usual Montréal media garbage.

I hope no one believes Yvon Pedneault ever again.

 

[RationalExpectations]

If Landeskog makes it to the UFA market, I expect us to be players. He's a MB type of player and now that we've had some playoff success, free agents may want to come here.

But I doubt he makes it to the ufa market, so will only consider him once he actually does.

Cap space ?

 

[gillyguzzler]

Bergevin's trade options will depend on what happens with Danault, Armia, Perry,..., and whoever he loses to Seattle.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We got a week off... Bad or good trade?

Drouin, Harris, and a 3rd
for
Patrick and Ghost

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

We got a week off... Bad or good trade?

Drouin, Harris, and a 3rd
for
Patrick and Ghost

rather keep Harris tbh Patrick is a bust and not a fan of Ghost we can find better options for a pmd

 

[Habs Halifax]

rather keep Harris tbh Patrick is a bust and not a fan of Ghost we can find better options for a pmd

I'm a fan of Harris as well so did I offer too much? Also not sure the Habs trade Drouin to the Flyers.... he would die there lol.

Just an idea to even out the cap. What I do like with Patrick is his shot. I always like guys that can shoot the puck. It would basically be Drouin vs Ghost and Harris vs Patrick. Not even sure the 3rd is required.

The other way to look at it is Gusta back on a team friendly deal is better than Ghost. I was trying to acquire Patrick and a fast skating puck mover while also unloading Drouin who needs a change.

Not my favorite idea but was curious to see what others thought

 

[26Mats]

Cap space ?

We can make the cap space if he actually w as nt to come here. Not resigning Tatar gets us half way there. Giving a team a pick to take Drouin the other half.