Proposal: Trade Thread Part 54

[Captain Mountain]

Sign Hoffman

Hoffman - Suzuki - Drouin
Domi - Kotkaniemi - Gallagher
Tatar - Danault - Armia
Byron - Evans - Lehkonen

Chariot - Weber
Edmundson - Petry
Romanov - Mete
Kulak

Price
Allen

We should make the playoffs with this roster

Montreal no longer has the cap space after Edmundson to go big game UFA shopping without dumping contract(s).

 

[Captain Mountain]

True, for sure, but if it's to get a player of Laine's ability (& age), that's an easy yes for me.

After the Edmundson contract, Montreal has to consider more carefully about making a move like that. They may need Caufield's ELC contract going forward.

 

[Miller Time]

After the Edmundson contract, Montreal has to consider more carefully about making a move like that. They may need Caufield's ELC contract going forward.

Lol... Yup, load up with expensive depth to tie your hands when it comes to going after elite talent...

It's the MB way

 

[Runner77]

Just thinking out loud and looking for additional input...

Is there any chance of a 3 way deal that includes us, Minny and another team

Minny gets Domi

Canadiens get a scoring winger (Boeser?)

3rd team (Van?) gets Dumba

All contingent on extensions and whatnot

Why is Minny needed? Van. would probably like the idea of adding Domi to Horvat.

 

[Vachon23]

Just thinking out loud and looking for additional input...

Is there any chance of a 3 way deal that includes us, Minny and another team

Minny gets Domi

Canadiens get a scoring winger (Boeser?)

3rd team (Van?) gets Dumba

All contingent on extensions and whatnot

Yes I taught the same trade but I think Minny will want to keep Boeser he is from there

 

[Deebs]

Why is Minny needed? Van. would probably like the idea of adding Domi to Horvat.

Just going of the rumours that they are interested in Dumba.

 

[Runner77]

From a comment Bergevin made at the tail end of his TVA Spanre interview yesterday, he expects not to have enough cap room to shop for UFAs.

He’s going the trade route all the way.

 

[Runner77]

Just going of the rumours that they are interested in Dumba.

I think they also like Domi because of a longstanding Horvat connection.

 

[Captain Mountain]

From a comment Bergevin made at the tail end of his TVA Spanre interview, Bergevin expects not to have enough cap room to shop for UFAs.

He’s going the trade route all the way.

He already doesn't have enough cap room to shop for UFAs if he want to retain all his RFAs and ice a full roster.

 

[Runner77]

He already doesn't have enough cap room to shop for UFAs if he want to retain all his RFAs and ice a full roster.

Certainly. And he’ll have even less.

 

[Sterling Archer]

After the Edmundson contract, Montreal has to consider more carefully about making a move like that. They may need Caufield's ELC contract going forward.

We have $11,000,000 and Domi to sign or trade. Plenty of room. No need to panic.

 

[Kwikwi]

Montreal no longer has the cap space after Edmundson to go big game UFA shopping without dumping contract(s).

yeah sure...

 

[SpezNc2]

I use excel too but I have gotten good at using Cap Friendly. It does all the math for you and follows CBA rules. Guys like Mete, Evans, Juulsen are getting their 1st one way contract and they don't have leverage. Mete might get $1M or something close to that but Evans and Juulsen probably $800k. Transition from two way ELC to one way NHL contract is a big deal for guys who don't have full time spots. They go from $1,000 a game in the AHL to $10,000 a game on a 1 way contract (AHL or NHL).

Without Domi or Edmundson signed... I have us around $11M in cap space (21 man roster).

I put a prime on RFA in order to have worst case or almost worst case scenario. Obviously it’s possible to shed 500K to 750K with some negotiation.

See below my 23 man roster using Cap friendly. 1.77 million in cap space after using Edmundson’s contract, Estimation for Domi’s contract and last 2 roster spots.

I have put 7.3 for Domi (5.5) and 1.8 for last 2 spots (900K each)

I think we are in same ballpark but mine

 

[HuGo Sham]

yeah sure...

Hudon and Ouellet won’t even be in Habs org next season unless they accept an AHL deal

 

[Ozmodiar]

Montreal no longer has the cap space after Edmundson to go big game UFA shopping without dumping contract(s).

without trades, they’ll sign their RFAs and be done.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Sign Hoffman

Hoffman - Suzuki - Drouin
Domi - Kotkaniemi - Gallagher
Tatar - Danault - Armia
Byron - Evans - Lehkonen

Chariot - Weber
Edmundson - Petry
Romanov - Mete
Kulak

Price
Allen

We should make the playoffs with this roster

Cap space
Can’t afford him

 

[Deebs]

yeah sure...

Lots of room to make something happen.

 

[domiwroze]

We still have 11M and people saying we don't have cap space anymore? What did I miss?

 

[domiwroze]

Van : Dumba
Mtl : Boeser
Min : Domi Mete 3rd Van 2020

 

[mariolemieux66]

We still have 11M and people saying we don't have cap space anymore? What did I miss?

Domi, Mete aren't sign and will take roughly, between 6 to 8 millions together. This leaves us with around 3 millions in cap space, since every team like to have a little cap space for the trade deadline.
What kind of player are we getting with our 3 mil in cap space, if Edmundson gets 3.5 mil?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

With all the speculation that's happening and picking up steam... Be careful with being gullible with tweeted reports.

Huh?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Laine is pretty much the only player that fits that bill (removing Hall as a UFA, unless we're trading for rights)...

after that, you get into the likes of Killorn or Reilly Smith... both decent/solid players, but both the type of player whose production is heavily dependent on elite linemates, rather than being the catalysts for creating consistent high-level scoring on their own.

A deal for Laine, with Danault as one of the main pieces, works fine from my perspective, provided Suzuki/JKO aren't the additional pieces. Caufield, Poehling, even Romanov (begrudgingly) would all be on the table as far as i'm concerned.

I think for our timeline, cap structure etc as much as i like Laine and his ability to score goals, I think I’d rather bet on Caufield and benefit from them low cost entry level years than go after Laine with him. I know it sounds silly to reject the notion of trading a prospect for a proven scorer like Laine, but I don’t think I do it. I think Caufield although smaller and a year or two away is going to be an elite scorer and I think it’s a mistake not to cash in on these prime entry level years.

 

[Big Empty]

We have $11,000,000 and Domi to sign or trade. Plenty of room. No need to panic.

seriously. everyone here’s freaking out over nothing.

 

[domiwroze]

Domi, Mete aren't sign and will take roughly, between 6 to 8 millions together. This leaves us with around 3 millions in cap space, since every team like to have a little cap space for the trade deadline.
What kind of player are we getting with our 3 mil in cap space, if Edmundson gets 3.5 mil?

Imma put 20$ that 2 of these 3 arent here when the season starts : Domi - Danault - Mete

thats leaves us with roughly 11M for trades / ufa

 

[Rico Suave]

Domi, Mete aren't sign and will take roughly, between 6 to 8 millions together. This leaves us with around 3 millions in cap space, since every team like to have a little cap space for the trade deadline.
What kind of player are we getting with our 3 mil in cap space, if Edmundson gets 3.5 mil?

Domi or Danault are 100% gone and same with Mete imo