Speculation: Trade Targets

[Blackhawkswincup]

Deadline Trades
Johnson
Blackwell
Beauvillier
Tinordi

- Its hard to see Johnson getting much interest at this point given how little he shows on ice
- Blackwell maybe a 7th rounder, anything higher would be coup
- Maybe team like Beau if he comes back and gets on hot streak

No GM is stupid enough to trade for Tinordi

If not for our idiot GM and coach he would be out of NHL

 

[kmwtrucks]

TJ is on a 20 + pace over 80 games. can play wing or Center has played allot of playoff games. Yes he is not going to get a huge return but at 1/2 retained maybe a 3rd and you send back a 5th/6th or something.

tinordi is making less than the AHL bury amount and he was not bad last year. seems to have regressed a bit. Tinordi has no value, but it was not a big deal of a signing 1 year 1 mil. don't think Idiot move bringing him back, he should just play alot less.

carpenter got a 5th I could see blackwell the same.

I struggle with some of the KD hate. I have not liked every move off course but in general they all seem to part of the bigger picture. what major move would you have done differently. Hagel CAT Dach, Hall, Kane, Keep msarek, Foligno dickinson instead of trade them. (if he could have gotten 2nds I would have traded them) take Dickinson, Zaitsev and Bailey for 2nds. I probably would have not resigned AA for 2 years but he did play well down the stretch. I would have done 1 year.

 

[cassac]

Saw in the trade thread on the main boards of a Leaf's fan looking to trade Robertson and a third for a top four RD. Probably wouldnt happen but I would do Murphy at 50% retained any day of the week for that.

 

[Drumman44]

Saw in the trade thread on the main boards of a Leaf's fan looking to trade Robertson and a third for a top four RD. Probably wouldnt happen but I would do Murphy at 50% retained any day of the week for that.

Isn’t Murphy on IR?

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I don’t believe it just yet, but if it’s true that Brady Tkachuk is unhappy in Ottawa, that’s the guy you do whatever it takes to get. He’s a unicorn in the NHL and a big skilled forward is something the Hawks severely lack in the prospect pool.

 

[Taze em]

I’m out of the loop Who are the big contracts with 2 years left that teams need to shed this deadline?

Also I shudder to think what a tkachuk trade would take. Nazar+Korchinski+ Moore+ Tampa 1st+ Toronto first

 

[JaegerDice]

I don’t believe it just yet, but if it’s true that Brady Tkachuk is unhappy in Ottawa, that’s the guy you do whatever it takes to get. He’s a unicorn in the NHL and a big skilled forward is something the Hawks severely lack in the prospect pool.

Depends on the ask. I imagine they're going to want a ton based on name brand despite the fact he’s only reached PPG once, isn't good defensively and takes the dumbest f***ing penalties damn near every game.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I’m out of the loop Who are the big contracts with 2 years left that teams need to shed this deadline?

Also I shudder to think what a tkachuk trade would take. Nazar+Korchinski+ Moore+ Tampa 1st+ Toronto first

We ain’t there yet

 

[Hattrick Kane]

We ain’t there yet

Perhaps. But let’s say we win Celebrini this year. 2025 1st is on the table because it can’t win the lottery.

So let’s say that 1st + Nazar as a base, plus the fact we can take the full salary without sending any back. Having Bedard, Celebrini and Tkachuk would get us a hell of a lot closer to where we’re trying to go.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Perhaps. But let’s say we win Celebrini this year. 2025 1st is on the table because it can’t win the lottery.

So let’s say that 1st + Nazar as a base, plus the fact we can take the full salary without sending any back. Having Bedard, Celebrini and Tkachuk would get us a hell of a lot closer to where we’re trying to go.

We can still win the lotto next year

 

[clydesdale line]

I’m out of the loop Who are the big contracts with 2 years left that teams need to shed this deadline?

Also I shudder to think what a tkachuk trade would take. Nazar+Korchinski+ Moore+ Tampa 1st+ Toronto first

Take out Nazar or Korchinski and I would do it. I would kill to have Tkachuk on this team. The perfect linemate for Bedard.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

We can still win the lotto next year

We can’t if we win it this year, which was the basis of my comment

 

[Mrfenn92]

We can’t if we win it this year, which was the basis of my comment

If we are the worst team at the end of the year and we win the first pick it will not count against us.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

If we are the worst team at the end of the year and we win the first pick it will not count against us.

NHL Draft Lottery History - TSN.ca

Take a look back at the previous rules and results of the NHL Draft Lottery, starting with the very first draw in 1995.

www.tsn.ca

Perhaps I’m confused and I apologize if I am. But I was under the impression that even if we were dead last, if we still get first overall through the lottery, that it counts against us.

The only way it wouldn’t is if we finished dead last and two teams in the 11-16 range won the lottery, meaning the team finishing last still picks first.

 

[cassac]

NHL Draft Lottery History - TSN.ca

Take a look back at the previous rules and results of the NHL Draft Lottery, starting with the very first draw in 1995.

www.tsn.ca

Perhaps I’m confused and I apologize if I am. But I was under the impression that even if we were dead last, if we still get first overall through the lottery, that it counts against us.

The only way it wouldn’t is if we finished dead last and two teams in the 11-16 range won the lottery, meaning the team finishing last still picks first.

The rule is that you cannot improve on your position more than twice in a five year period. If you finish last, you have the first pick prior to the lotto. If you come out of the lotto with the first overall still, you did not improve your position.

Isn’t Murphy on IR?

He is right now. Doesn't mean he will be at the deadline.

Doesn't matter though. I don't think Murphy gets you Robertson.

 

[cassac]

Take out Nazar or Korchinski and I would do it. I would kill to have Tkachuk on this team. The perfect linemate for Bedard.

Word is that the Sens are looking for a right handed defenseman. I would see how close Jones gets you. Retaining isn't ideal but say retaining $2 million. A $7.5 million a year Seth Jones is a damn good deal, even if he gets crapped on here.

 

[kmwtrucks]

Kings lost Another F in Kempe and already have a few out. I wonder if TJ or Beauliver at 50% or blackwell or taylor might interest them. could make sense to they have 4 more games between now and the 7th. would make sense to make a move quickly and not wait for the top tier guys. IE they have not played well so getting someone in the lineup sooner then later might help. TJ or beauliver for a 3rd with 6th going back

 

[Styles]

Word is that the Sens are looking for a right handed defenseman. I would see how close Jones gets you. Retaining isn't ideal but say retaining $2 million. A $7.5 million a year Seth Jones is a damn good deal, even if he gets crapped on here.

I highly doubt Jones would waive his NMC to get traded to the Sens,

 

[cassac]

I highly doubt Jones would waive his NMC to get traded to the Sens,

I agree. I was going to add that as another thing to overcome but forgot to.

 

[BHawk21]

I think Sens tried on Jones before and it was a no. Im pretty sure we cannot get the number 1 pick again for 5 years if we get the number 1 this year. The whole system is a lottery so even if we have the best odds we still "win" the lottery.

 

[vandymeer13]

TJ is on a 20 + pace over 80 games. can play wing or Center has played allot of playoff games. Yes he is not going to get a huge return but at 1/2 retained maybe a 3rd and you send back a 5th/6th or something.

tinordi is making less than the AHL bury amount and he was not bad last year. seems to have regressed a bit. Tinordi has no value, but it was not a big deal of a signing 1 year 1 mil. don't think Idiot move bringing him back, he should just play alot less.

carpenter got a 5th I could see blackwell the same.

I struggle with some of the KD hate. I have not liked every move off course but in general they all seem to part of the bigger picture. what major move would you have done differently. Hagel CAT Dach, Hall, Kane, Keep msarek, Foligno dickinson instead of trade them. (if he could have gotten 2nds I would have traded them) take Dickinson, Zaitsev and Bailey for 2nds. I probably would have not resigned AA for 2 years but he did play well down the stretch. I would have done 1 year.

AA was the worst move he has made so far.

 

[cassac]

I think Sens tried on Jones before and it was a no. Im pretty sure we cannot get the number 1 pick again for 5 years if we get the number 1 this year. The whole system is a lottery so even if we have the best odds we still "win" the lottery.

You can be pretty sure all you want but you are wrong.

Here is the wording from the NHL:

"No single team can advance in the draft order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw more than two times in any five-year period. This limitation will not affect a club’s ability to retain its presumptive draft position in any Draft Lottery, nor would it preclude the possibility of the club moving down in draft order to the extent other clubs advance by reason of winning the Lottery Draws. For purposes of clarity, the limitation would attach to the team, not the specific pick."

Like I said, it is about improvement or advancement in draft order. If you finsh last and have the first pick, you do not win the draft if you end up with the first overall pick. It just means that no one else improve to first overall.

 

[Drumman44]

I think Sens tried on Jones before and it was a no. Im pretty sure we cannot get the number 1 pick again for 5 years if we get the number 1 this year. The whole system is a lottery so even if we have the best odds we still "win" the lottery.

This isn't true. You're only allowed to "improve your standing" more than 2x in a given 5 year span. That means last year counts as one use of that. If we finish dead last and win the lottery, it does not count as a win. If we finish 2nd to last and pick 2nd, it doesn't count either.

 

[OTC]

I don’t believe it just yet, but if it’s true that Brady Tkachuk is unhappy in Ottawa, that’s the guy you do whatever it takes to get. He’s a unicorn in the NHL and a big skilled forward is something the Hawks severely lack in the prospect pool.

Somebody on the Ottawa site suggested Brady for Chicago's first unprotected

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

To
C Colton Dach
D Taige Harding
Hawks 2025 1st (No protections)
Hawks 2026 1st (No protections)

To
LW Brady Tkachuk

Hawks have Leafs 2025 1st and three 2nd rounders in 2026 so gambling those 1st's isn't terrible gamble. Dach is quality prospect but appears made of glass while Harding is buried behind slew of D prospects in our system

We will walk away with Celebrini or one of the other bigs at this draft (+ whatever we get with TB pick) so ours system will be even more stocked with young talent

Tkachuk gives you star 1st line LW signed for next 4 years and would begin the process of turning team around towards competitive along with some other moves (FA/Trades) over next 2 offseasons