Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part I

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Erik Alfredsson

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I'm sure we could get a quality top 4 defenseman for Anderson

Easily, but no, lets get some 20 year old kid, who is playing on the 3rd line and ocasionally benched on Edmonton, who might leave to Russia in a few year. Great plan guys.

Anderson, Ceci, 3rd= 2-3 defenseman, back-up.
 

Benjamin

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The last thing this team needs is another Russian hockey player, have we not learned anything from the past? They are a flight risk, they seem to always hold out for more money & they don't perform in the playoffs. Why risk it especially when people here are giving away so much for such a risky player?

Agreed. Yakupov is straight up sketchy.
 

connor macdavid

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Who of these players could be more effective for the Sens (let me rephrase - who would you be most willing to trade for):

David Booth VAN
Tobias Enstrom WPG
Shawn Monahan CGY
Andrew Cogliano ANA

Keep in mind the various trade values of each player, and how much the Sens would have to give up to get them.

I'd say David Booth would be a nice fit here, just my opinion.
 

Benjamin

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Who of these players could be more effective for the Sens (let me rephrase - who would you be most willing to trade for):

David Booth VAN
Tobias Enstrom WPG
Shawn Monahan CGY
Andrew Cogliano ANA

Keep in mind the various trade values of each player, and how much the Sens would have to give up to get them.

I'd say David Booth would be a nice fit here, just my opinion.

Booth is an overpaid scrub 3rd liner. Melnyk would hate him.

Would love Monahan or Enstrom.
 

TheOriginalSilf*

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Who of these players could be more effective for the Sens (let me rephrase - who would you be most willing to trade for):

David Booth VAN
Tobias Enstrom WPG
Shawn Monahan CGY
Andrew Cogliano ANA

Keep in mind the various trade values of each player, and how much the Sens would have to give up to get them.

I'd say David Booth would be a nice fit here, just my opinion.

Enstrom would take too much.
Monahan would require a significant overpayment.
No interest in Booth or Cogliano.

Next.
 

Cherith Cutestory

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Who of these players could be more effective for the Sens (let me rephrase - who would you be most willing to trade for):

David Booth VAN
Tobias Enstrom WPG
Shawn Monahan CGY
Andrew Cogliano ANA

Keep in mind the various trade values of each player, and how much the Sens would have to give up to get them.

I'd say David Booth would be a nice fit here, just my opinion.

What a...strange list? You got a top-2 defenseman, a potential top-6 forward who is PPG in his rookie season so far, an overpaid bottom-6 and a fringe top-6.

We don't need to trade for anyone...yet. Season is young people.
 

aragorn

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Who of these players could be more effective for the Sens (let me rephrase - who would you be most willing to trade for):

David Booth VAN
Tobias Enstrom WPG
Shawn Monahan CGY
Andrew Cogliano ANA

Keep in mind the various trade values of each player, and how much the Sens would have to give up to get them.

I'd say David Booth would be a nice fit here, just my opinion.

Calgary is not trading away their leading goal scorer & doesn't Enstrom run Wpg's PP? Booth & Cogliano IMo are not going to help Ottawa much, I think we have better prospects in Bingo than those two. Why don't you have Fleischmann on your list? Former 50 pt player, rumoured to be available, only makes $4.5 mil, under 30 yrs old, experienced, would fit in our top 6 & IMO is better right now than all those guys?
 

Rodzilla

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Then why was he scratched? What happened to good players making others around them better? Maybe it's because he is a one dimensional player who only cares about his own point totals than team goals. Yakopov is definitely a problem, he's a flight risk which after trading away what some here are suggesting could set Ottawa back yrs if he doesn't work out. And who is to say whether he would mesh with Spezza & we would be adding another small soft player to this roster with already too many small soft players. BTW who would you demote from the top 6 to insert him into the lineup? I think people over estimate the value of young Russian players, I think NHL GMs are very concerned to risk any assets on them & what does it say about him after only one season that Edmonton is ready to ship him out of town?

Yakupov is not soft. Also he is better than Conacher and I love CC89. Yakupov has 50 goals potential and like it or not he makes our team better. He is scratched cause he's not good in the role he is used, why is he playing on a defensive line? makes no sense to me and go look on the Oilers board it makes no sense to them either. Nobody knows if he's a flight risk that is just pure speculation! If the price is fine and fair I say you do it, IMO
 

SixthSens

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Who of these players could be more effective for the Sens (let me rephrase - who would you be most willing to trade for):

David Booth VAN
Tobias Enstrom WPG
Shawn Monahan CGY
Andrew Cogliano ANA

Keep in mind the various trade values of each player, and how much the Sens would have to give up to get them.

I'd say David Booth would be a nice fit here, just my opinion.

Because I'm sure Calgary is just dying to get rid of Monahan...
 

connor macdavid

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Yakupov is not soft. Also he is better than Conacher and I love CC89. Yakupov has 50 goals potential and like it or not he makes our team better. He is scratched cause he's not good in the role he is used, why is he playing on a defensive line? makes no sense to me and go look on the Oilers board it makes no sense to them either. Nobody knows if he's a flight risk that is just pure speculation! If the price is fine and fair I say you do it, IMO

Edmonton would want a crap ton in return for Yakupov thought.

As for Fleischmann, $4.5 mil would require some serious re-shuffling of salary, especially because Melnyk seems to be becoming more of a penny-pincher by the day.
 

aragorn

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Yakupov is not soft. Also he is better than Conacher and I love CC89. Yakupov has 50 goals potential and like it or not he makes our team better. He is scratched cause he's not good in the role he is used, why is he playing on a defensive line? makes no sense to me and go look on the Oilers board it makes no sense to them either. Nobody knows if he's a flight risk that is just pure speculation! If the price is fine and fair I say you do it, IMO

I read on here that Filatov had 50 goal potential too & he hasn't gotten that yet in the KHL. I posted that Filatov was a flight risk & was told by people on here that he wasn't & wanted to play in the NHL. I guess they were right, it was the AHL he didn't want to play in & took off for Russia as soon as he got demoted from Ottawa.
 

Tampacuseforever

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Yakapov is a first overall pick of course he's better than Conacher. Yakopov has a chance to be a franchise player, the only way we get him is to give up our franchise goalie LEHNER. Safe to say we will not be acquiring Yakupov anytime soon.
 

Rodzilla

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Filatov gamble is not over, he has 9pts in 12 games over in the KHL and his contract expires at the end of the year, he's still young, and the team hasn't give up on him. Of course it would cost a lot to get Yakupov but it's just speculation on Anderson, I already said I wouldn't trade Lehner. Andy + players I would, just talking for fun
 

King Karlsson

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Yakapov is a first overall pick of course he's better than Conacher. Yakopov has a chance to be a franchise player, the only way we get him is to give up our franchise goalie LEHNER. Safe to say we will not be acquiring Yakupov anytime soon.

So St Louis is worse than Filatov because Filatov was drafted top 10 whereas St Louis wasn't even drafted?
 

aragorn

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I wonder how New Jersey fans feel after they gave Kovalchuk a bus load of money plus it cost the team two first round picks & a fine & he still left for the KHL? I wonder how Nashville fans feel after they drafted Radulov & he returned to Russian a couple of yrs afterwards. Then there is Filatov & all the other Russian players the Sens have drafted that have never come over to NA. How quickly we forget.
 

Benjamin

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I wonder how New Jersey fans feel after they gave Kovalchuk a bus load of money plus it cost the team two first round picks & a fine & he still left for the KHL? I wonder how Nashville fans feel after they drafted Radulov & he returned to Russian a couple of yrs afterwards. Then there is Filatov & all the other Russian players the Sens have drafted that have never come over to NA. How quickly we forget.

Zherdev as well.

Maybe Kuznetsov.
 

Slack

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Edmonton would want a crap ton in return for Yakupov thought.

As for Fleischmann, $4.5 mil would require some serious re-shuffling of salary, especially because Melnyk seems to be becoming more of a penny-pincher by the day.

We'd have to do something like Fleischmann for Michalek straight up. It could be a lateral move, or possibly an upgrade considering 9MM's start to the season. And might make aragorn a bit happier.

I doubt FLA would go for that though.
 

aragorn

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We'd have to do something like Fleischmann for Michalek straight up. It could be a lateral move, or possibly an upgrade considering 9MM's start to the season. And might make aragorn a bit happier.

I doubt FLA would go for that though.

Why do you think it would take Michalek for Fleischmann? It has been rumoured that he has been available since last yr's trade deadline & that he wouldn't cost very much. Also Florida is rebuilding like Ottawa & likely would want someone younger than Michalek. I was thinking more along the lines of Condra, SDC & Petersson should be more than enough. I would prefer to keep Michalek besides they are both Czechs.
 

Slack

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Why do you think it would take Michalek for Fleischmann? It has been rumoured that he has been available since last yr's trade deadline & that he wouldn't cost very much. Also Florida is rebuilding like Ottawa & likely would want someone younger than Michalek. I was thinking more along the lines of Condra, SDC & Petersson should be more than enough. I would prefer to keep Michalek besides they are both Czechs.

Dunno, just seems like pretty fair value, but I was responding to a concern about having to shed salary in order to take on Fleischmann's contract. Though like I said it's kind of a lateral move in terms of age and point production.

But Michalek hasn't been good yet this year and I'm concerned he and his knees are on a steep decline, so I was only thinking that we swap for a comparable player who doesn't show as many signs of slowing down just yet.

Anyway I like what Condra brings. But wouldn't mind making a package involving the other two if we can indeed afford Fleisch (I think we can).
 

aragorn

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Dunno, just seems like pretty fair value, but I was responding to a concern about having to shed salary in order to take on Fleischmann's contract. Though like I said it's kind of a lateral move in terms of age and point production.

But Michalek hasn't been good yet this year and I'm concerned he and his knees are on a steep decline, so I was only thinking that we swap for a comparable player who doesn't show as many signs of slowing down just yet.

Anyway I like what Condra brings. But wouldn't mind making a package involving the other two if we can indeed afford Fleisch (I think we can).

Agreed it's that damn internal budget. I keep forgetting about that but Melnyk did say he would take on a UFA near the end of the season, if BM asked him to take the team to the next level. Unfortunately that's not Fleischmann, he has another yr on his contract but more like Hemsky or Vrbata who are in their last yr & interestingly are also Czechs.
 

Slack

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My gut feeling is all the crying poor is Melnyk's negotiating tactic for a casino bid, but I guess we'll never know. The only thing with Hemsky is durability. I'm not sure how many games we actually get out of him.
 
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