Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals/Free Agents 2017-2018 | Part III

[Ouroboros]

Wilson is a good player, but how could he possibly ever live up to that kind of a contract?

 

[Sensung]

Could be their Greening 2.0

Zach Smith 2.0

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Wilson is a good player, but how could he possibly ever live up to that kind of a contract?

5 per isn't much these days.

It's a really solid contract, Wilson is a very useful and effective player.

 

[Langdon Alger]

tom wilson is a beast. A bit much but would love him on my team.

Me too, but not at that price.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Owners are basically begging for another lockout at this point when a third liner gets over $5 million for SIX years.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

if they see him as a legit 2nd line guy

He's topped at 35 points entering his prime largely playing with three of the best offensive forwards in the league. There's no way he makes that contract look good going forward imo. He's a $3-4 million guy at best.

This is classic overpayment for a good playoff run. Shades of Bickell and Pisani.

 

[Sens]

In a world Wilson is worth 5... Stone is worth 9

 

[bert]

That’s a lot.

Thats actually unbelievable that they gave him that much money. You actually think he wouldnt have signed for 3 million per season?

 

[Daffy]

Thats actually unbelievable that they gave him that much money. You actually think he wouldnt have signed for 3 million per season?

No. Because Wilson is worth much more than 3 million dollars.

 

[Micklebot]

No. Because Wilson is worth much more than 3 million dollars.

I think before the cup run, he'd have been signing between 3 and 4, leaning towards 4. This is the first time in his career he's broken 25 pts in a season, and he did it ridding OV. It's not as bad as Greening ridding Spezza, but there is a bit of similarity in that both owe their contracts to a superstar imo.

 

[toxic poster]

Wilson produced third line results playing WITH kuznentzov and ovechkin. Awful contract end of story.

 

[slamigo]

Owners are creating the perfect storm for another lockout. Front loaded, bonus laden contracts and overpaying for potential ability rather than proven ability.
Then the owners will complain that salaries are out of control, contract structures are ridiculous. But it’s the owners that are signing these deals.

 

[topshelf15]

Meh, they won a cup...This inflated contract is just his share

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

No. Because Wilson is worth much more than 3 million dollars.

What? Maybe a tiny bit but definitely not north of 5

 

[Boud]

Wilson is definitely overpaid but I feel like Kuznetsov and OV are able to play their game with him and he doesn't look out of place.

 

[Sensung]

Owners are creating the perfect storm for another lockout. Front loaded, bonus laden contracts and overpaying for potential ability rather than proven ability.
Then the owners will complain that salaries are out of control, contract structures are ridiculous. But it’s the owners that are signing these deals.

Front loaded bonus loaded contracts make the owners less likely to lock out the players.

The coming battle is between big market owners giving out these contracts (and who will be forced to payout during a lockout) and the more numerous average and small market teams who are hurt by those deals.

If a lockout happens expect greater revenue sharing to be on the table.

 

[Daffy]

What? Maybe a tiny bit but definitely not north of 5

Never said that. I said he's definitely worth more than 3. He's probably a 4-4.5 million dollar player.

 

[slamigo]

Front loaded bonus loaded contracts make the owners less likely to lock out the players.

The coming battle is between big market owners giving out these contracts (and who will be forced to payout during a lockout) and the more numerous average and small market teams who are hurt by those deals.

If a lockout happens expect greater revenue sharing to be on the table.

I’m not sure about the lockout being less likely. As you say, it just creates another front in the war. Now it’s players vs big market owners vs small market owners.

Also, escrow is a huge problem.

 

[bert]

No. Because Wilson is worth much more than 3 million dollars.

For one good playoffs riding shot gun to Kuznetsov and Ovie. Absolutely disagree.

Show me some comparable 30 point physical wingers making more than 3.5 million.

 

[bert]

Never said that. I said he's definitely worth more than 3. He's probably a 4-4.5 million dollar player.

Show comparbles then.

 

[Daffy]

For one good playoffs riding shot gun to Kuznetsov and Ovie. Absolutely disagree.

Show me some comparable 30 point physical wingers making more than 3.5 million.

He was a 1st round pick and is only 24. He just took a huge leap last year offensively. He's capable of 40-50 points imo. And he was a huge part of them winning the Cup. And obviously he brings a lot to the table.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Now it’s players vs big market owners vs small market owners.

Good point!

The owners will likely be divided in the upcoming lockout. Meaning it could be another long lockout...

 

[TheBradyBunch]

For one good playoffs riding shot gun to Kuznetsov and Ovie. Absolutely disagree.

Show me some comparable 30 point physical wingers making more than 3.5 million.

Abdelkader, Ladd, Saad, Lucic, Foligno, Backes, Helm, Eakin, Sutter, Brouwer, Shaw, Wilson, Callahan, Dubinsky, Hanzal

Not physical but similar production:
Eriksson, Tatar, Soderberg, Pominville, Nielsen, Rask, Hagelin, Anisimov, Zajac, Bonino, Frolik, Berglund,

Some of them are centermen, didn't see you say wingers until I had done most of the list. But still, lots of similar or even far worse, older players making more than 3.5m.

 

[Deku]

Abdelkader, Ladd, Saad, Lucic, Foligno, Backes, Helm, Eakin, Sutter, Brouwer, Shaw, Wilson, Callahan, Dubinsky, Hanzal

Not physical but similar production:
Eriksson, Tatar, Soderberg, Pominville, Nielsen, Rask, Hagelin, Anisimov, Zajac, Bonino, Frolik, Berglund,

Some of them are centermen, didn't see you say wingers until I had done most of the list. But still, lots of similar or even far worse, older players making more than 3.5m.

Difference here is that more than half of the players you listed at least earned their cap hit with some solid production before receiving said contracts. Unlike Wilson who is coming off one good year. This contract will only be good if Wilson continues his upward trajectory and gets even better. Definitely a gamble as he is 24 and has been in the league for a while.

 

[Punchbowl]

tom wilson is a beast. A bit much but would love him on my team.

So would I (suspensions aside), but that's a contract with anchor-potential.

Wilson's making first-line money after one outstanding post-season. Aside from that, he's been a superb 3rd/4th line forward who could add some jam to the top six when necessary.

Makes you wonder what a prime Lucic would have made on today's open market.

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On a related note: seeing Wilson land a $5.17M contract is bad news for Ottawa; we couldn't afford premiere bottom six talent when it was < 3M per year, never mind > 5M.