If Faulk keeps racking up minus seasons like that for 8 years, it means that the team has other players racking up minus seasons like that, which makes me wonder why the team continues to be so terrible. Which means Justin Faulk isn't the only thing at question here and you are just making hypothetical scenarios without any means to actually discuss them in good faith.
Explain what you mean? Not discuss in good faith?
I do not think AA's ceiling is that high, and as a winger that doesn't put him in a spot where I can be too picky about getting a player for him. And a young defenseman who has had some very good seasons where he is in a place where he is affordable, I am willing to part with him. Keep in mind a guy like AA isn't going to land you that much, so the real question is what kind of player is AA worth, and do you really think you could get such a player all things considered?
You're not getting last year's Faulk for AA.
But we're not dealing for last year's Faulk. We're dealing for a guy who:
is SIXTH LOWEST of ALL NHL defenseman in points per 60 at 5 on 5 (500 minutes or more).
Out of 167 defenseman who've played 500 minutes or more at 5 on 5, Faulk is the SIXTH WORST at point production.
He's an offensive defenseman with real defensive deficiencies.
And he's the SIXTH WORST at offense.
You think I'm not having a discussion in good faith to suggest pumping the brakes on this trade?
Athanasiou is 53rd in points/60 out of 264 forwards.
For an offensive forward with defensive deficiencies, his numbers are somewhat expectable.
Faulk's numbers are alarming.