Habs Icing
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You know if the team continues to get the results it has been getting, none of those trades make sense.
Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread
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I don’t expect us to win 66% of our games, but understand your point. Eventually we will make room for the kids though.
Habs Icing
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Yes but eventually could mean two years. Of the kids that could be ready next year I only see Suzuki, Brook and maybe Poehling. If the team does well this year I could see management deciding to send all three to Laval. And i still think Kotkaniemi won't stay with the team this year. Maybe next year.
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Anyone else super annoyed to think we could have gotten Nylander + + for Subban as T.O would easily do this trade to help them get over the top. As it stands don't think Toronto would do Weber straight up for Nylander... I hate our clown Gm
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I'm not that high on Nylander to be honest.
I'm more annoyed by the fact that our GM refused a deal around Taylor Hall + for PK Subban before shipping him for Shea Weber
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Brook is ready.
He was IMO better than many of our current NHL defensemen during pre season.
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Meh, guys have great preseasons all the time. Doesn't always mean they are ready. We can afford to be patient with Brook IMO.
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Well it's a better indicator than only development camp (in the case of Poehling)
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Poehling was miles ahead of both Brook and Kotkaniemi there
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From what I remember he was pretty much on par with Brook who was also lights out. I could also return your argument about pre season that does not mean much.. just like development camp does not mean much.
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If Poehling didn’t return to school he’s probably in the NHL right now.
I know we needed C prospects, but I threw out a proposal of Patches for Panarin. Reason for us was that Panarin was the superior and younger player. I thought the only reasons the Hawks might do it is because they were once again hard against the Cap and in the wash would save $1.5M per year over the 2 years of the contracts, and they were also getting a reliable 30 goal scorer. Panarin was of course ultimately traded to Columbus. I had posted this proposal on the Hawks board and as I recall, a couple or few would have done it. There was no outrage by anyone.
Columbus is not a destination. Not that players will not resign there, but I think in doing trades Columbus wants to see term on contracts or plenty of RFA years left. They are not going to let Panarin walk for nothing regardless of whether they could use him post season.
Montreal isnt exactly a destination city either. But Montreal is a good sized city with plenty of night life, and a European flare which appeals to some players. It's also hockey mad and we have Cap space.
I wonder if a Drouin for Panarin deal might work. Drouin is obviously the lesser player but he is young, has high skill and plenty of term left.
Of course Panarin, who turns 27 in about a week, would have to be on board and sign an extension with us. I'm thinking about $9M-$9.5M for 7 years.
This would of course kill any chance of a tank.
Columbus is not a destination. Not that players will not resign there, but I think in doing trades Columbus wants to see term on contracts or plenty of RFA years left. They are not going to let Panarin walk for nothing regardless of whether they could use him post season.
Montreal isnt exactly a destination city either. But Montreal is a good sized city with plenty of night life, and a European flare which appeals to some players. It's also hockey mad and we have Cap space.
I wonder if a Drouin for Panarin deal might work. Drouin is obviously the lesser player but he is young, has high skill and plenty of term left.
Of course Panarin, who turns 27 in about a week, would have to be on board and sign an extension with us. I'm thinking about $9M-$9.5M for 7 years.
This would of course kill any chance of a tank.
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We should seriously consider trading Petry with retention this year, he is a RHD, which is a good commodity around the league nowdays and he's good for 30 -35 points playing on the second pairing. Byron is a 20/20 3rd line with speed and alwaya a threat on the PK and at 3.4mil, is a good add for any cup contender. I would also be looking at trading Tatar with retention. Just finish the season with McCarron and Sherback. We need to acquire as many 1st round picks for the next 2 coming draft.
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I like the general gyst but I doubt Byron is going anywhere. They've just signed him to an extension and he's been given a letter -- that shows long-term commitment. Petry can be traded to 15 teams and should be marketed when the time is right this year. Tatar could be great TDL move, especially if he continues on his current production.
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If the Habs were to attempt to get Nylander, how far are we with Petry and Lenkonen as the basis of a package offer?
Habs Halifax
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1) Buy low, Sell high. He is playing well on the Habs. If we can get a solid return, we should do it.
2) We need to tank to get a better chance at a lottery win
3) Tatar has 3 years left and do you consider him part of our future cup winning roster?
4) Room for Scherbak on the roster. We allow him to play a full season (or close to it) and it also helps our tank chances
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It depends on what other teams offer. Leafs prefer to get a younger D in return. Someone that can help them now vs later and also grow with the young core but still on ELC. Petry, Lehkonen, + is a decent offer but we need to add more and not sure this is a type of package the Leafs would want for Nylander.
If the deal is out there, the Leafs prefer a RyJo for Jones type deal. However, they need to find another Preds type team that is stacked on D and looking for improvements up front.
There are some teams with aspirations of some objective, be it contender or play offs that are not hitting expectations at this early stage. Premature for them to make a big move, but the ones that fall behind in the play off race may look at making an early move, say at the quarter mark, because they cant afford to fall too far behind.
I think we at least stand pat until the TDL is on the horizon. Petry is our best possible trading chip but I have no interest moving him plus, for Nylander. It would be for a good high draft pick and top young D player/prospect. I want to see how the kids are developing though and if Reilly keeps it up.
Its tricky. If Reilly has had a break out season then we have a top 3 of Weber, Petry and Reilly. Pretty good, and you round it out with Juulsen as no. 4. But then there is the Expansion Draft.
I would be very tempted to move Petry once Weber is back if there is a real good offer made.
Dont know about moving Tatar or Byron. The Tuna line is doing so well, and both these guys should score 20. We need guys who can score at least 20. But as always, if an offer blows MB away....
I think we at least stand pat until the TDL is on the horizon. Petry is our best possible trading chip but I have no interest moving him plus, for Nylander. It would be for a good high draft pick and top young D player/prospect. I want to see how the kids are developing though and if Reilly keeps it up.
Its tricky. If Reilly has had a break out season then we have a top 3 of Weber, Petry and Reilly. Pretty good, and you round it out with Juulsen as no. 4. But then there is the Expansion Draft.
I would be very tempted to move Petry once Weber is back if there is a real good offer made.
Dont know about moving Tatar or Byron. The Tuna line is doing so well, and both these guys should score 20. We need guys who can score at least 20. But as always, if an offer blows MB away....
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was never a big fan, good shot but I don't think he's a fit here. Although we seem to be ok with former wings players so far but we don't have room for more wingers so it would need to be a 2 for 1 type of deal. Like say Scherbak and Hudon for Mantha but then I would have to start following the wings if they had a Hudon DLR Scherbak line.
Just figure the Habs could use a winger with some size and who can finish.
But Mantha definitely has some work rate issues, so you're right in the sense that i'm not sure if he would be a fit here.
I've just always thought he would somehow end up in Montreal for some reason.
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I think Mantha could/would fit here, I'm just not sure Montreal has the pieces to make it work. Detroit probably wants a young D-man and Montreal cannot afford to pay that price. Montreal is also pretty deep at the wings. Who do you move. LW isn't likely to be adjusted much. Drouin isn't being moved. Byron and Tatar have been Montreal's two best forwards so far. At RW Gallagher is Montreal's best forward, Lehkonen has been pretty excellent as a two-way winger and Montreal just added Armia (who has size). Plus planning in the medium-term probably sees Domi shift back to wing.
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