Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency XXI

[nickschultzfan]

Let's say the deal is Granlund+Kuemper+Belpedio+Pominville (calm down some of you) for Malkin.

Would you do it?

I think that is the line where I would have to think about it. Otherwise, pass.

 

[Wabit]

Let's say the deal is Granlund+Kuemper+Belpedio+Pominville (calm down some of you) for Malkin.

Would you do it?

I think that is the line where I would have to think about it. Otherwise, pass.

Swap Zucker for Kuemper? Don't know how interested they'd be with another goalie (even if MAF is traded) Murray/Zatkoff is a decent combo.

If this is a cap move then they are taking back more than they are giving. Pommer is untradeable to the Pens. Salary/term + NMC.

 

[Wabit]

Oh look if we trade Kuemper, we can get Bryzgalov cheap.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/humongous-big-comeback-ilya-bryzgalov-wants-to-make-return-to-nhl/

 

[nickschultzfan]

Swap Zucker for Kuemper? Don't know how interested they'd be with another goalie (even if MAF is traded) Murray/Zatkoff is a decent combo.

If this is a cap move then they are taking back more than they are giving. Pommer is untradeable to the Pens. Salary/term + NMC.

Forgot about Zatkoff...

 

[keppel146]

Let's say the deal is Granlund+Kuemper+Belpedio+Pominville (calm down some of you) for Malkin.

Would you do it?

I think that is the line where I would have to think about it. Otherwise, pass.

if it's gonna cost us close to that, I'd rather have RNH or someone else. Cheaper, younger, and we'd only have to give up a dman + small add instead of big add. And we'd keep the majority of the assets listed above. I'm fine with trading one or two people to get a C, and not blow up the entire team.

 

[Fremitus Borealis]

if it's gonna cost us close to that, I'd rather have RNH or someone else. Cheaper, younger, and we'd only have to give up a dman + small add instead of big add. And we'd keep the majority of the assets listed above. I'm fine with trading one or two people to get a C, and not blow up the entire team.

I actually thought his offer was a little low. To me that looks like basically Granlund for Malkin, which just seems silly. Belpedio may or may not have an impact beyond bottom 6, Kuemper's kind of a spare part (not a bad one, mind you, but still), and people have been wanting to run Pominville out of town since like November. I think more realistically the Pens would want Coyle/Nino, probably plus Granlund, and Poms (salary dump, sorta). Which, I agree, is probably too many parts to lose all at once.

 

[MNRube]

I actually thought his offer was a little low. To me that looks like basically Granlund for Malkin, which just seems silly. Belpedio may or may not have an impact beyond bottom 6, Kuemper's kind of a spare part (not a bad one, mind you, but still), and people have been wanting to run Pominville out of town since like November. I think more realistically the Pens would want Coyle/Nino, probably plus Granlund, and Poms (salary dump, sorta). Which, I agree, is probably too many parts to lose all at once.

Yeah that's too low. They'd want like Dumba/Brodin + Nino/Coyle + Ek/Tuch or something. Kuemper and Belpidio are not going to tip the scales much at all.

 

[Wild11MN]

Yeah I don't think that's even close. Malkin is still one of the best players in the world. Unless Pitt is in major trouble with the contract, it's going to take a lot more. And I don't think they are.

 

[Fremitus Borealis]

Yeah that's too low. They'd want like Dumba/Brodin + Nino/Coyle + Ek/Tuch or something. Kuemper and Belpidio are not going to tip the scales much at all.

Yeah, I meant my "counter" as a sort of "starting point" on like the very least they would be asking for. I mean stranger things have happened (*ahem*, Kessel) but still.

EDIT: That said, PIT are definitely facing the cap crunch. I think they've noticed the last couple seasons that, while yeah, Malkin's one of the best players in the world, you're really not getting him at 100% if he's got to play behind the guy who might be (cringe) THE best player in the world. It's weird (esp. as a Wild fan) to think of a player of that calibre being superfluous, but yeah... If they can get a decent return for him while getting rid of that salary, esp. after just winning the Cup, they might just do it.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Yeah I don't think that's even close. Malkin is still one of the best players in the world. Unless Pitt is in major trouble with the contract, it's going to take a lot more. And I don't think they are.

Pitt is in huge trouble even if they move Fleury.

That's the only reason they are taking calls on Malkin in the first place.

 

[Lennu32]

Oh look if we trade Kuemper, we can get Bryzgalov cheap.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/humongous-big-comeback-ilya-bryzgalov-wants-to-make-return-to-nhl/

I'd take Bryz if he agrees to play for minimum NHL salary. This team could use his humour in dire times

Malkin? No ****ing way with that contract.

 

[Wild11MN]

Pitt is in huge trouble even if they move Fleury.

That's the only reason they are taking calls on Malkin in the first place.

Well they'll probably move Fluery which would give them a lot more flexibility. Might be tight but they can probably work it out without trading him.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Let's say the deal is Granlund+Kuemper+Belpedio+Pominville (calm down some of you) for Malkin.

Would you do it?

I think that is the line where I would have to think about it. Otherwise, pass.

Without hesitation. Zero second thoughts.

 

[PuckInTheNards]

Let's say the deal is Granlund+Kuemper+Belpedio+Pominville (calm down some of you) for Malkin.

Would you do it?

I think that is the line where I would have to think about it. Otherwise, pass.

No way we get Malkin for that. It'd be Granlund, one of the D (Pitts choice) and a first just to start.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

I think it's just at that point that I'd overpay for Reinhart.

Wild

Reinhart
Fasching

Sabres

Spurgeon
Coyle
JEE
15

 

[Spurgeon]

I think it's just at that point that I'd overpay for Reinhart.

Wild

Reinhart
Fasching

Sabres

Spurgeon
Coyle
JEE
15

Wow that's bad.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

Wow that's bad.

Then drop the 15 out of the deal and put Kuemper in.

 

[Spurgeon]

Then drop the 15 out of the deal and put Kuemper in.

Still don't think Reinhart is worth like 5 first round draft picks.

 

[Wabit]

I think it's just at that point that I'd overpay for Reinhart.

Wild

Reinhart
Fasching

Sabres

Spurgeon
Coyle
JEE
15

How about this instead:

Coyle
Dumba
15oa

for (Oilers)

Draisaitl

 

[Saga of the Elk]

How about this instead:

Coyle
Dumba
15oa

for (Oilers)

Draisaitl

Good grief

 

[Fremitus Borealis]

I would kill to get Draisaitl from that team. I should think they'd need something like Granlund going back, though, not Coyle. They would definitely want either Spurge or Dumba, and could probably get away with demanding the 15oa as well.

My main worry is if Draisaitl regresses, we'd be ****ed.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

I would kill to get Draisaitl from that team. I should think they'd need something like Granlund going back, though, not Coyle. They would definitely want either Spurge or Dumba, and could probably get away with demanding the 15oa as well.

My main worry is if Draisaitl regresses, we'd be ****ed.

A player of his talents on an entry-level contract would, indeed, probably require you to commit homicide.

The Coyotes just added Goligoski for a 5th round pick and some money. The Oilers are likely to add a similar player without costing their team one of the most valuable assets in the NHL.

 

[Fremitus Borealis]

A player of his talents on an entry-level contract would, indeed, probably require you to commit homicide.

The Coyotes just added Goligoski for a 5th round pick and some money. The Oilers are likely to add a similar player without costing their team one of the most valuable assets in the NHL.

Indeed.

 

[nickschultzfan]

A player of his talents on an entry-level contract would, indeed, probably require you to commit homicide.

The Coyotes just added Goligoski for a 5th round pick and some money. The Oilers are likely to add a similar player without costing their team one of the most valuable assets in the NHL.

Sure they are. Just like they did the last 6 years.

Reason Oilers need to look to trade for a Dman is because nobody wants to sign there unless it is a massive overpaymenr

 

[ClayAikenFan77]

A player of his talents on an entry-level contract would, indeed, probably require you to commit homicide.

The Coyotes just added Goligoski for a 5th round pick and some money. The Oilers are likely to add a similar player without costing their team one of the most valuable assets in the NHL.

If he doesn't like Arizona or the deal they are offering he can still become a UFA so it's not like they for sure added him for next season...

Hamhuis's UFA rights were traded from Nashville to Philadelphia to Pittsburgh and then he still went to free agency and signed with the Canucks. I think it's funny that Pittsburgh traded a 3rd for his UFA rights and he still didn't sign there