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Jim Matheson from the Edmonton Journal saying the Habs/Oil discussed a Perron for Eller deal two weeks ago.
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I have no idea why you call Eric Staal overrated. Nobody talks about Staal yet the guy produces at a rate of 70-75pts per season for like the last 10 years.
While DD here gets called the best offensive center of the team but plays at a rate of 50 pts per season despite playing with a 35g+ winger.
The term overrated is so over/mis-used on this board.
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Couldn't find the link to that and don't know how reliable Matheson is.
However, he has written about Eller and has brought up Perron, in an October 2nd piece based on the always-intriguing-but-codespeak-for-questionable source, "report":
Let's start rumors about any French-Canadian player who can score and associate them with the Montreal Canadiens. Clearly, all of them are a fit here, Mr. Matheson. Why don't we trade out players on account of nationality while we're at it? We need more French-Canadiens, Mr. Matheson. The Habs are not running a hockey team, they're only interested in demagoguery.
SirClintonPortis
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13 points in 15 games this season, and he normally starts the season slow. Seems like he'll have a bounce back season.
Really, he never dipped below 61 points per 80ish games since his breakout season. That is damn good.
sheed36
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If true hopefully it was the Oilers contacting the Habs about the possibility of such a trade and not MB initiating the discussion. I'd rather keep Eller and I hope MB feels the same way.
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Would you do Eller vs Yakupov ? Both sides can add few minor throw-ins.
No doubt, Yakupov is not performing great right now, but I think he'll be better than Eller in the future.
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Dude. Well need
To add a ****in lot. Would you trade Galchenyuk for Eller? Yakupov could turn out better.
Smokey Thompson
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MacT was probably trying to pry Eller out of Montreal. MB wouldn't touch that.
Lars was much better regarded in June of 2007 and he still should be at this point in time.
I'd take a 3rd line centre of Lars' size, skill, athleticism over a soft Perron's decent 2nd line production.
And to be honest, if Eller played in Edmonton he'd be 2nd line C playing with Yak and / or Eberle and getting 50-60 points.
Smokey Thompson
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Staal has a year left on his deal. Why on earth would he want to resign here after spending a decade in the Carolina heat? He'll likely sign somewhere out West until his retirement.
It would be a waste of assets. Rather just wait for Galchenyuk to take that #1 spot.
Trading Eller now, would be a big mistake IMO. Im not attached to Eller anymore than the next Habs player but his puck possession is off the charts, not to mention he forms quite the line with Sekac and Prust. That is not the move to make. Perron would not make this team any better then Eller does at the moment.
We need to trade DD. He cant hack it in the playoffs and it seems like his regular season play is just not up to par with the other centers we have.
Not sure I would support Bergevin if he made a Perron for Eller swap. All things considered, I think MB is a lot smarter than we can imagine. He has basically pin pointed every problem most fans see with the team and fixed it. I don't think he would make that trade.
Now if we talk about Yakupov, Id entertain the idea of an Eller+ swap. But that's an entirely different scenario
We need to trade DD. He cant hack it in the playoffs and it seems like his regular season play is just not up to par with the other centers we have.
Not sure I would support Bergevin if he made a Perron for Eller swap. All things considered, I think MB is a lot smarter than we can imagine. He has basically pin pointed every problem most fans see with the team and fixed it. I don't think he would make that trade.
Now if we talk about Yakupov, Id entertain the idea of an Eller+ swap. But that's an entirely different scenario
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Certainly Bergevin wouldn't trade any player if he wasn't getting equal or better value in return and it made sense to the Habs now.
Trading one of our centres now creates a hole in our lineup that needs to be addressed seeing as Chucky isn't ready for that role yet and we're contenders now. . So if we did trade DD or Eller, we'd have to get a VERY good scoring winger to compensate as well as a 3rd line centre. Not sure Edmonton and montreal make good trading partners in this scenario as the oil won't trade RNH and they don't have anyone else other than their 4th line centre.
A winger for a D+ makes more sense from our perspective IMO.
sheed36
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For those who want to trade Eller to the Oilers. Who would then play 3rd line center and Eller's minutes? I'd rather not play Galchenyuk as the 3rd line center and have him out of the top 6. So who replaces Eller?
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The ole "Source says". Who dropped this on Dreger's lap, probably a leech within the Leafs' org.
If MacTavish is eager to do anything hockey-related, he only has to make 29 phone calls. Funny how whenever Bergevin is set on doing something, there is no advance reliable "source says".
Take off the rose colored glasses. We're not contenders yet. Too many holes to fill.
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Couldn't agree more. Saw a guy sporting two Habs flags on his car yesterday. And a scrolling message from a MUCTC electronic face plate congratulating the Habs.
What are these jinxers celebrating? Championships of the fleeting. How about we make the playoffs first.
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I guess we disagree with our vision of our team. While Chucky certainly needs work on his defensive game at center, I don't think he can do worse than DD. His loss would NOT affect us as much as you think. I think Perron is a good enough piece/scoring winger to trade DD for. Eller, on the other hand, would create a bigger hole, which we would have a hard time filling. This we agree on.
I prefer:
Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Perron
Parenteau-Plekanec-Gallagher
Sekac-Eller-Prust
Weise-Malhotra-Bowman/7th D
to the lineup we currently use.
The ideal would be getting a RW, that is our weak spot currently. Using Yakupov as an example. We would get Yakupov for Eller+Beaulieu+1stpick.
Sekac-Plekanec-Parenteau
Pacioretty-DD-Gallagher
Prust-Galchenyuk-Yakupov
Weise-Malhotra-Bowman/Bournival/7th D
(No particular order of lines at even strength)
Then for PP:
1st unit
Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Yakupov
Subban-Markov
2nd unit
Sekac-Plekanec-Parenteau
Gilbert-Gonchar
I will always prefer the team without DD, as I think he is an absolute blackhole to all our even strength and PP offense.
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