Yes he is.
Petry is a 4. He is not great defensively and is okay offensively. I say this because we already have two 50 point D men. No thanks.
Yes he is.
Petry is a 4. He is not great defensively and is okay offensively. I say this because we already have two 50 point D men. No thanks.
Why would you limit your options by taking back a rental. Why not trade it for something more?Looking for a rental player on the last year of their contract. Willing to give up our 1st round pick as the main piece. Likely trading partners are non-playoff teams.
Prefered - #4 RHD
Would also take a 2nd line ~20 goal scorer.
Or Toronto’s 1st rounder might turn out to be a 1st rounder.Toronto's 1st rounder will basically be a 2nd rounder next summer, and everyone knows it. Not going to be worth that much on it's own.
Looking for a rental player on the last year of their contract. Willing to give up our 1st round pick as the main piece. Likely trading partners are non-playoff teams.
Prefered - #4 RHD
Would also take a 2nd line ~20 goal scorer.
Yes, they are needed. Role/auxiliary players need to be replaced internally , and you do that by insuring you draft well. The worst mistake contending teams make is either overpaying role players or trading for them externally and wasting draft capital. Teams do this because they don't have prospects ready to fill holes.
If we use Sandin as an example , you can consider the impact he has on the organization already. The Leafs may not be able to keep Gardiner (just the truth) if their young stars command heavy dollar. If this is the case, then presumably Dermott fills the hole. By doing that, Sandin suddenly becomes a vital piece within the next 2-4 years.
If you just punt 1st round picks for rentals , then you leave yourself devoid of options. When you don't have options , you do dumb things- like overpay for marginal talent.
Again, I'm not anti-trading picks , but it has to be for the right piece. That piece is pretty obvious in regards to the Leafs. There's absolutely no reason to harm your future flexibility because you want to upgrade your third line winger position for a couple months. A move that likely won't move the needle at all and will have future ramifications - even if they're unforeseen.
Brock nelson and a 4th for 1st and 3rdLooking for a rental player on the last year of their contract. Willing to give up our 1st round pick as the main piece. Likely trading partners are non-playoff teams.
Prefered - #4 RHD
Would also take a 2nd line ~20 goal scorer.
Brock nelson and a 4th for 1st and 3rd
I think "top pair" would be good enough, Rielly's a #1 if he repeats last year's performance but I agree with the sentiment. Petry can handle tough competition in big minutes and does well in them, and he has enough time left on his contract to give us enough time to figure out a successor whether that's Liljegren or soemone else. He's my top "band aid" target, there are a few guys that could be available who are probably an ideal solution who are younger that I would include Liljegren in a deal to get if they were available like Trouba but I think those are less likelyPetry would be a perfect fit here. Everyone says we need a #1 RHD. Sure. So do most teams. They're nearly impossible to find. You don't need a perfect blue line to win the cup. It's been proven by the Pens and Caps. No more Boyle and Plekanec type rentals please.
Petry is a 4. He is not great defensively and is okay offensively. I say this because we already have two 50 point D men. No thanks.
I'm not sure why OP mentioned a winger, but there is absolutely no need for Toronto to acquire one. We're playing with 2 injured ones in the preseason and still icing a very good setSilfverberg? Solid 2 way winger for you. Not sure what the exact trade value on that is.
Only reason I think Panarin would be good is to give our left side some punch 5 on 5.I'm not sure why OP mentioned a winger, but there is absolutely no need for Toronto to acquire one. We're playing with 2 injured ones in the preseason and still icing a very good set
that's true but probably not affordable, I would take a defensive upgrade over Panarin and I think the acquisition cost would be a lot lowerOnly reason I think Panarin would be good is to give our left side some punch 5 on 5.
Didnt realize toronto clinched already
with the assets we have we legit could go ALL IN and get a fwd and a D man, but thats not how Dubas works. But being over the top is what these boards are for.that's true but probably not affordable, I would take a defensive upgrade over Panarin and I think the acquisition cost would be a lot lower
with the assets we have we legit could go ALL IN and get a fwd and a D man, but thats not how Dubas works. But being over the top is what these boards are for.
1st+Bracco+Levio for Panarin
2nd+Johansson+SDA/Holl for Petry
other teams fans my scoff at the value but I feel my offers are more than fair considering what high end rentals have gone for in the past.
with the assets we have we legit could go ALL IN and get a fwd and a D man, but thats not how Dubas works. But being over the top is what these boards are for.
1st+Bracco+Levio for Panarin
2nd+Johansson+SDA/Holl for Petry
other teams fans my scoff at the value but I feel my offers are more than fair considering what high end rentals have gone for in the past.
I think those values are low but you also didn't include our two most valuable non-roster assets in Liljegren & Sandin, I'm sure we could afford upgrades on both fronts in terms of trade value but cap constraints will come into play and I think getting a Panarin just to push a Leivo/Johnsson/Kapanen/Brown off the roster is less of an upgrade than you'd be paying for because those guys should be pretty good NHL'ers.with the assets we have we legit could go ALL IN and get a fwd and a D man, but thats not how Dubas works. But being over the top is what these boards are for.
1st+Bracco+Levio for Panarin
2nd+Johansson+SDA/Holl for Petry
other teams fans my scoff at the value but I feel my offers are more than fair considering what high end rentals have gone for in the past.
Yes, they are needed. Role/auxiliary players need to be replaced internally , and you do that by insuring you draft well. The worst mistake contending teams make is either overpaying role players or trading for them externally and wasting draft capital. Teams do this because they don't have prospects ready to fill holes.
If we use Sandin as an example , you can consider the impact he has on the organization already. The Leafs may not be able to keep Gardiner (just the truth) if their young stars command heavy dollar. If this is the case, then presumably Dermott fills the hole. By doing that, Sandin suddenly becomes a vital piece within the next 2-4 years.
If you just punt 1st round picks for rentals , then you leave yourself devoid of options. When you don't have options , you do dumb things- like overpay for marginal talent.
Again, I'm not anti-trading picks , but it has to be for the right piece. That piece is pretty obvious in regards to the Leafs. There's absolutely no reason to harm your future flexibility because you want to upgrade your third line winger position for a couple months. A move that likely won't move the needle at all and will have future ramifications - even if they're unforeseen.