Consensus seems to be
PK specialist, good vision
Average to below average on D
Skating is nothing special
Shot used to be good, shoulder surgeries have weakened that
Small guy willing to play a big man's game but has been targeted and abused in PO's
Player Discussion Torey Krug VII
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Consensus seems to be
PK specialist, good vision
Average to below average on D
Skating is nothing special
Shot used to be good, shoulder surgeries have weakened that
Small guy willing to play a big man's game but has been targeted and abused in PO's
Over the volcano
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He’s a total gamer - will/could/should be a captain in the league . You’d absolutely love him unless you expect him to be taller.
Opinions here vary. I will try to be as objective as I can with my own opinion here: he is a sublime passer, especially in the offensive zone and more especially on the power play. His vision is superb. He is fairly agile on his skates, but not very fast. His shot is average at best. He used to have a cannon, but hurt his shoulder a few years ago and his shot as never been the same. It isn't awful, though. He will play physically at times, but there isn't much he can do at his size. He is brave and willing though and does not generally shy away from contact. He will take a hit to make a play. His defense is meh. He isn't terrible defensively and has gotten better over the years, but he is not a blue line stalwart. His positioning and defensive zone sense is adequate enough, but not good, And of course he will get pretty easily overmatched physically playing down low. Not a guy you want out there defending a late lead or when a goalie is pulled, and he won't be a PKer either (he was never used in either role here as far as I can recall). You also don't want him out there defending against another team's top line, or even second line if it is very offensively talented.
That is how I see him- a good player who excels at certain things and is underwhelming at others. He would give your PP an instant boost and help your breakout and transition game as well. Just don't expect him to play great defense or impose his will on anyone. You can expect decent defense from him most of the time, though.
Anyway, I am sure there will be different feelings about him here, but again the bottom line is is that he is a good player. Not worth it to the Bruins to pay him what he is probably going to get, but he might be worth what he gets to another team. Who is to say?
CharasLazyWrister
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This exactly. The line needs to be drawn at some point. In my mind, it's this year.
This concept of Chara being allowed to stay until Chara wants to retire is one of the silliest and most out of touch viewpoints I've seen on this board. It is a professional hockey club, not a Sunday afternoon men's league.
As far as Torey, there is just too much risk in a long term contract. As much as I have enjoyed watching him, the risk of a 7 year/8 million dollar type contract seems far greater than the potential reward going into his 30s.
He's more physical and way more intense than Yandle definitely. Solid defensive game?....ehhhh. He's not as bad as people make him out to be on the whole, but he's not a guy that's going to be out there with a 1 goal lead and a minute to go by any stretch of the imagination, and there will definitely be some questionable plays that make you scratch your head.
Great transitional player though, really awesome first pass. Great creativity in the offensive zone. He thinks and sees the game offensively on another level. He's not dependent on natural athletic ability, which will give him some additional longevity to his peak and career.
All heart player though. It's no surprise he's one of the few defenders who's stats all elevate when playoffs come around. PPG, hits per game, blocked shots per game, etc. As good of a player as you're getting on the ice, you're getting a better one in the locker room. He's first man up dropping the gloves when a teammate goes down.
Dicky113
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He’s an absolutely dominant power play quarterback and good a driving transition 5V5. He’s not great defensively and commits a lot of turnovers, he’s too small to be considered physical and gets knocked off the puck a fair amount, but does lay some nice open ice hits every so often. He’s a good teammate.
Does this help?
Give us a 4th round pick and you can have him and find out what he’s like until Oct.9.
That goes for everyone TBH.
Sometimes I'm amazed at how many fans want to run this franchise in the ground for a singular touchy feely moment..but then again this is a place that threw a cup party for an opposing player and people actually went.
Absurdity
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Okay, so if that is the offer and it's always been 6 years, then Krug just doesn't want to stay, whatever else he said. It wasn't the Bruins lowballing him as I thought might have happened that pissed him off. Maybe it was the fact that they didn't get this done during the season when he saw extensions handed out mid-season to a guy like Wagner, or, more comparably, Charlie Coyle. Maybe he really thinks his value is at the $8m mark. We may never know, but if he wasn't going to take when first offer, you have to think he isn't taking it at all.
From basically the same fan base of Belichick who will cut bait at the drop of a hat. Bizarre.
BigBadBruins7708
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Chara is still their best defensive player, and the best dollar/results ratio on the team. Truth hurts apparently.
DiggityDog
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I certainly don’t fault him for maximizing his money
If he gets paid $7+ that’s going to be wild. That’s top pairing minutes. I think he’s going to get smoked when he’s expected to face top lines every night. He played quite a few protected minutes in Boston. I don’t think he’s a shitty defender, but man more money means more expectations. I honestly think he has a zero percent chance to live up to his next big contract.
If he gets paid $7+ that’s going to be wild. That’s top pairing minutes. I think he’s going to get smoked when he’s expected to face top lines every night. He played quite a few protected minutes in Boston. I don’t think he’s a shitty defender, but man more money means more expectations. I honestly think he has a zero percent chance to live up to his next big contract.
Sure, Chara is still good defensively in his own zone because of his reach & strength. He's become a defensive specialist. There's minimal offense now. He has to be extra careful in the offensive zone now or else he'll get blown by speedy forwards. Plus flips the puck out more & more. If an upgrade can be made on LD I think it should be done. Chara would be my contingency plan at this point. Father time catches up to everyone.
Smitty93
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The difference between $6.5M x 6 years and $7.5M x 7 years is $13.5M. There aren't many places you couldn't convince me to move to for 35% more total money.
BAD BOY
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Everyone gave you an in-depth scouting report and I agree with all of it. It was nailed spot on. I would add a little more this is just my opinion though. The bruins really need a top six forward for the second line. They are presumably going ALL IN this year so they say. Krug has asked for 7/8 M a year from bruins all fact because he has turned down over 6.5 another fact. Ask yourself this question if your a puck moving d-man away from being a Stanley Cup contender he’s one of the best . You pay him. It’s plain and simple. If you got money and you wanna burn it. If your team isn’t ready . Your wasting time and money.
Hedman makes 7.8 a year and Krug is not in that category but will make more its life in F/A.
I love the player but giving him 8 M is dumb. It’s bad business especially if your team could be losing two good offensive players.
DominicT
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The problem has always been term. That's what I've always said and I am sticking to it.
A player, or rather his agent decides what the value of the contract should be. Then they decide on term, how its spread out, and clauses.
The Bruins can make 6.5 work for Krug because they can back load a deal (as opposed to front load). I have talked about this before. Because of the guaranteed escrow through this CBA, backloading can put more money in Krug's pocket.
The question is whether the Bruins want to backload because it makes for a harder contract to move in the latter years.
Lot of negotiating to do. 10 days to get it done
Evan Gold will figure it all out if they truly have agreed on the value of the deal.
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BAD BOY
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But Don does it preclude the bruins from making other moves. I’m talking serious moves. Not stop gap moves.
I thought he said he isn’t good in the playoffs Sure he wasn’t great this year but Carlo was at least just as bad. Pasta sucked also no chance we move him. Players have up and down playoffs. I’m just sure risked at some of the Krug comments
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