Player Discussion Torey Krug VII

[Dr Hook]

Guessing he has an offer for 7/56 minimum.

If he can score the hockey version of Smaug's hoard, power to him

 

[Bodit9]

Guessing he has an offer for 7/56 minimum.

Yikes

 

[Ratty]

Question: if a team trades a pick to obtain negotiating rights for a player, and the player does not sign, does the team get its pick back?

 

[DangleCity]

Question: if a team trades a pick to obtain negotiating rights for a player, and the player does not sign, does the team get its pick back?

No

 

[Over the volcano]

Great point. I hope people that want Chara back remember this as well. As much as certain players are loved and respected (Krug and Chara are on different levels here, of course) there is a time to move on and it's often more than a straight value for money equation.

If you want a team with kids who developing into legit NHL defensemen quickly then you want Chara on the team

 

[Ratty]

No

That’s interesting. So a team can gain a draft pick even if the player does not sign. He then goes to free agency, doesn’t like either the offers or the city and decides to accept his original team’s last offer. The team gets to keep its guy AND scores a draft pick!
I know this is highly unlikely, but possible.

 

[tonino2424]

Yup - DeBrusk to 3 with Coyle

I love the way Tampa was able to take a Donny Marcotte good 3 zone player with some O skills like Palat and stick him with two studs in Point & Kucherov.

what a line - legit hockey porn

Cassidy putting all his eggs in one basket just nuts

You have FIXED duos
Marchand-Bergeron
Krejci - Pastrnak
DeBrusk-Coyle

I love it because your third line has second line components

then your flexibility comes in

assume your 4th + is

Frederic-Kuraly-Wagner
Kuhlman
Ritchie

You have Studnicka, Kase or Senyshyn who could go with Coyle

Who can play LW with Krejci
Who can play RW with Bergy

I like the Saad for Bjork deal ~ Saad with Krejci & Pastrnak would be outstanding

if it’s for Chiasson I’ll lose it

I kind of like the Saad for Bjork idea. As free agents, how about signing Toffoli and Dillon. Lines could be

Marchand---Bergeron---Toffoli
Saad---Krejci---Pastrnak
Debrusk---Coyle---Studnicka

Dillon---McAvoy
Griz---Carlo
Chara---Lauzon

 

[Dr Hook]

If you want a team with kids who developing into legit NHL defensemen quickly then you want Chara on the team

Well at this point we are probably looking at one kid, maybe two, but I doubt Sweeney and Cassidy would put both Lauzon and Zboril for example in there at the same time. I don't feel like that is enough reason to keep Chara. Why not hire the guy as a coach/consultant and he can practice with them and teach.

 

[JOKER 192]

Guessing he has an offer for 7/56 minimum.

He really shouldn't have any offers other than the Bruins at this point.

 

[ON3M4N]

Well at this point we are probably looking at one kid, maybe two, but I doubt Sweeney and Cassidy would put both Lauzon and Zboril for example in there at the same time. I don't feel like that is enough reason to keep Chara. Why not hire the guy as a coach/consultant and he can practice with them and teach.

Was thinking the same thing.

 

[DangleCity]

That’s interesting. So a team can gain a draft pick even if the player does not sign. He then goes to free agency, doesn’t like either the offers or the city and decides to accept his original team’s last offer. The team gets to keep its guy AND scores a draft pick!
I know this is highly unlikely, but possible.

My guess is the league would step in on something like this, especially if it was contrived

 

[lopey]

Great point. I hope people that want Chara back remember this as well. As much as certain players are loved and respected (Krug and Chara are on different levels here, of course) there is a time to move on and it's often more than a straight value for money equation.

Yeah at this point in Chara career he is going to be a progress stopper. Have to bring in the young guns and see what we have. Love Chara but his time is over I think.

 

[member 96824]

I'd be shocked if that was the Bruins offer and he left for a mil more per season. Either the offer isn't real, or Krug is looking for 8 plus. No chance he uproots for 7 mil more total.

Rumor is that "final offer" that just happened to leak is the same offer that's been on the table from the get go. Still no word on what any expansion or trade protection looks like.

JFJ and Don's version of coming to the middle looks like a HFL GM!

 

[Over the volcano]

Yeah at this point in Chara career he is going to be a progress stopper. Have to bring in the young guns and see what we have. Love Chara but his time is over I think.

Ask McAvoy what Z means to a kids progress on this club

Well at this point we are probably looking at one kid, maybe two, but I doubt Sweeney and Cassidy would put both Lauzon and Zboril for example in there at the same time. I don't feel like that is enough reason to keep Chara. Why not hire the guy as a coach/consultant and he can practice with them and teach.

He’s already a coach/consultant - if he wants to hang em up I doubt he’d have difficulty hitching on anywhere in that role

 

[Dr Hook]

Ask McAvoy what Z means to a kids progress on this club

So what, we just keep him on year after year till there are no more prospects to be mentored?

 

[DKH]

I kind of like the Saad for Bjork idea. As free agents, how about signing Toffoli and Dillon. Lines could be

Marchand---Bergeron---Toffoli
Saad---Krejci---Pastrnak
Debrusk---Coyle---Studnicka

Dillon---McAvoy
Griz---Carlo
Chara---Lauzon

Dillon yes
Toffoli no

 

[DKH]

So what, we just keep him on year after year till there are no more prospects to be mentored?

We keep Chara till he’s 64 and we can say ‘Old Z is older than the 3 Bruins defensive prospects combined’

Or

prospect A’s father was born 2 months after Old Z first game with the Islanders

Or

old Z played when the US had 50 states and no King

 

[Dr Hook]

We keep Chara till he’s 64 and we can say ‘Old Z is older than the 3 Bruins defensive prospects combined’

Or

prospect A’s father was born 2 months after Old Z first game with the Islanders

Or

old Z played when the US had 50 states and no King

That actually makes sense

 

[JOKER 192]

So what, we just keep him on year after year till there are no more prospects to be mentored?

Which is never, so.......................

 

[ON3M4N]

We keep Chara till he’s 64 and we can say ‘Old Z is older than the 3 Bruins defensive prospects combined’

Or

prospect A’s father was born 2 months after Old Z first game with the Islanders

Or

old Z played when the US had 50 states and no King

My favorite Chara "fun fact" has to be that in his rookie season with the Islanders he fought Jake DeBrusk's dad

 

[Dr Hook]

Which is never, so.......................

Pretty much- I get that people have a sentimental feeling about the guy, I do too- when he was at his best he was awesome. He stayed relevant and good for a lot longer than I would have imagined. But he pretty much sucks now and why shouldn't he? He is 43 in a game where players peak at 26-28. It's not a knock on the guy to admit he is just not a good NHL player anymore.

 

[BeezKnees]

Panthers fan coming in peace. There's a couple rumors floating that we're going to be in on Krug. Can anyone give me the lowdown on his game? Our board is split between thinking he's too similar to Yandle as an purely offensive dman... but others have said he has a solid defensive game/ plays physically too unlike Yandle. Thoughts?

 

[Gator Mike]

Our board is split between thinking he's too similar to Yandle as an purely offensive dman... but others have said he has a solid defensive game/ plays physically too unlike Yandle.

You've basically just summed up this board's feelings on Krug.

 

[CharaBadSenyshynGawd]

Panthers fan coming in peace. There's a couple rumors floating that we're going to be in on Krug. Can anyone give me the lowdown on his game? Our board is split between thinking he's too similar to Yandle as an purely offensive dman... but others have said he has a solid defensive game/ plays physically too unlike Yandle. Thoughts?

Bad place to ask. Folks here say he’s the worst defensive dman in the nhl and his offensive numbers don’t really count.

also... small dman..... bad

 

[tonino2424]

Dillon yes
Toffoli no

Why do you say no on Toffoli ?