Confirmed with Link: TOR sign G Petr Mrazek to 3 year deal, 3.8M AAV

[ACC1224]

Actually if you look at close out games, Freddy has 3 and Campbell also has 3. They both went 0-for. Campbell just whiffed all his tries in a single series.

Here's Leafs goalies' sv% in close-out games. Not a single one above .917 (league median sv%)

Reimer: 0.857
Andersen: 0.829
Andersen: 0.900
Andersen: 0.905
Campbell 0.867
Campbell 0.903
Campbell: 0.909

Brutal.
Post Mrazeks please.

 

[makbeer]

Are you saying they are being coached improperly? I heard Briere is messing with the goalies styles too much. Might be time to open the bank and hire Mitch Korn or one of his disciples for the job. We have the money...use it..

No idea - I know the old Leafs goalie coach (Keeks) but I don't know Briere so can't comment on how he's coaching the goalies.

That said, most NHL goalie coaches don't do much to affect goalies styles, by that time they are pretty much locked in save for some minor adjustments.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

That said, most NHL goalie coaches don't do much to affect goalies styles, by that time they are pretty much locked in save for some minor adjustments.

Why is Mitch Korn so well thought of if they are locked in by the time they make the NHL? I guess maybe the last 5% of tinkering might be the difference between a good goalie and a star goalie.

 

[makbeer]

Brutal.
Post Mrazeks please.

2019-2020
loss to Boston (.926 sv%)

2015-2016
loss to Tampa (.957sv%)

2014-2015
loss to Tampa (.938 sv%)

Interesting suggestion and somewhat encouraging results. He put up strong performances in all 3 of this elimination game attempts (despite losing).

The flip side is he rarely seems to play his entire teams' playoff series, he almost always gets yanked, or comes on in relief.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Sort of like a person pretending to be a regular poster but in fact they are employed by a professional hockey team to spin things a certain way?

No, that would be essentially the opposite, and it would be pretty ridiculous for anybody to think that a professional hockey team is sending spies to infiltrate a meaningless forum on the internet, just because they experience some people making reasonable, logical, and supported statements about the team and what's happened, instead of being angry at everything for no reason.

 

[sparxx87]

A physical specimen that let his team down,on way too many occasions.

True, but relative to how many times his team let him down, it seems pretty unreasonable to point the finger solely at him.

Just like I wouldn’t point at Campbell. Sure, he could have been better, but there’s a long list of plays the Leafs lost that impacted the overall outcome. Down the line we could watch tape and point to mistakes from everyone.

…but only the goalies mistakes are counted on the scoreboard.

 

[ACC1224]

2019-2020
loss to Boston (.926 sv%)

2015-2016
loss to Tampa (.957sv%)

2014-2015
loss to Tampa (.938 sv%)

Interesting suggestion and somewhat encouraging results. He put up strong performances in all 3 of this elimination game attempts (despite losing).

The flip side is he rarely seems to play his entire teams' playoff series, he almost always gets yanked, or comes on in relief.

Thanks

 

[makbeer]

Why is Mitch Korn so well thought of if they are locked in by the time they make the NHL? I guess maybe the last 5% of tinkering might be the difference between a good goalie and a star goalie.

A huge chunk of the work goalie coaches do is mental.

Korn is the GOAT. He keeps the game very simple - nothing under, nothing through.

A lot of goalie coaches now make the game very complicated with zone charts that break the defensive zone into as many as 8 different zones that dictate save selection and depth based on puck proximity and zone.

Some goalies can take this info in really well - a great example is Thatcher Demko, if you study his play he executes almost every save selection by the book with immaculate attention to detail (until the game dictates he break from technique to make a desperation play).

 

[kb]

That's not my recollection. We were definitely "outgoalied" against Columbus.

Freddy was the 3rd best goalie in the Columbus series.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

2019-2020
loss to Boston (.926 sv%)

2015-2016
loss to Tampa (.957sv%)

2014-2015
loss to Tampa (.938 sv%)

Interesting suggestion and somewhat encouraging results. He put up strong performances in all 3 of this elimination game attempts (despite losing).

The flip side is he rarely seems to play his entire teams' playoff series, he almost always gets yanked, or comes on in relief.

That's all of encouraging, interesting, and concerning in one ball of who-the-hell-knows

 

[koyvoo]

Legitimately one of the most shocking and incorrect things I've seen on this website. Guy just has no clue what the f*** he is talking about

Perhaps the goaltenders would be less prone to letting in softies in game 7s or elimination games if 11M forwards could generate even a moderate amount of offensive support. Or at least one softie wouldn’t be what the game depends on completely.

Heck, even a prime Hasek or Roy doesn’t win those games with 1 and 0 goals of offensive support. Unless they scored themselves. Who is supposed to carry this team? Yet people want to say we haven’t succeeded in the playoffs because of goaltending.

So next year in game 7, we will lose 2-1 with Mrazek giving up a softie, and he’ll shoulder the blame for the forwards yet again.

 

[uncleben]

Other teams signing bad deals doesnt make you intelligent in retrospect, why cant people grasp this.

You can flip the script and say other teams signing sweethearts deals does not make you dumb in retrospect

 

[Muston Atthews]

Hope we checked in on the price of Georgiev before making this deal

 

[Fonzieleaf]

Not that bad of a contract considering the other guys that got signed. It is definitely a 1A/1B type of tandem rather than a clear cut starter and a backup. They’ll be sharing the responsibilities.

What do people expect? You need to throw quality money to get quality players.

 

[TMLAM34]

Perhaps the goaltenders would be less prone to letting in softies in game 7s or elimination games if 11M forwards could generate even a moderate amount of offensive support. Or at least one softie wouldn’t be what the game depends on completely.

Heck, even a prime Hasek or Roy doesn’t win those games with 1 and 0 goals of offensive support. Unless they scored themselves. Who is supposed to carry this team? Yet people want to say we haven’t succeeded in the playoffs because of goaltending.

So next year in game 7, we will lose 2-1 with Mrazek giving up a softie, and he’ll shoulder the blame for the forwards yet again.

Next year in game 7? Don’t get ahead of yourself, the Leafs will struggle making the playoffs.

 

[Stonehands1990]

Freddy was the 3rd best goalie in the Columbus series.

In fairness the Leafs make goalies look good. All I saw in the Columbus and Montreal series was goalies making routine saves with little or no traffic and then hearing the advanced stats crowd talk about how much we dominated and got “goalied”

Which is why I keep saying xG is a flawed stat

 

[Dekes For Days]

In fairness the Leafs make goalies look good. All I saw in the Columbus and Montreal series was goalies making routine saves with little or no traffic

Then you weren't watching very well. For the record, over the past 3 years, Korpisalo and Price sit #1 and #2 in playoff SV%, among all starters who played in more than one series.

 

[Clark4Ever]

In fairness the Leafs make goalies look good. All I saw in the Columbus and Montreal series was goalies making routine saves with little or no traffic and then hearing the advanced stats crowd talk about how much we dominated and got “goalied”

Which is why I keep saying xG is a flawed stat

Price robbed our forwards too many times to remember throughout the series. He is the one and only reason the Habs upset us in the first round, despite everything else that went wrong for us.

 

[Stonehands1990]

Price robbed our forwards too many times to remember throughout the series. He is the one and only reason the Habs upset us in the first round, despite everything else that eent wrong for us.

Nah. Very few “robberies”

Mostly Price cutting down angles making routine saves

 

[Stonehands1990]

Then you weren't watching very well. For the record, over the past 3 years, Korpisalo and Price sit #1 and #2 in playoff SV%, among all starters who played in more than one series.

Of course they did. The leafs direct a high volume of shots towards the net with zero traffic. Easy routine saves. Go back and watch the games and count how many times a Leaf player is robbed of a goal. Korpisalo robbed Matthews once maybe

 

[Zybalto]

The thing about Price is that he was stellar and wasnt making any mistakes at all. Even when the Habs lost, he was one of their best players.

 

[Zybalto]

Theres more but a stopped looking there....also a ton of highlights from the entire playoffs for him. Really got in a groove. Damn Leafs and their "perimeter shots" screwed them. Price had nothing to do with it right?

 

[egd27]

It does not.

Ignoring the numbers the poster cited and going with the eye test on this one ?

You can flip the script and say other teams signing sweethearts deals does not make you dumb in retrospect

I suppose it depends on which end of spectrum you want your GM to be measured against.

 

[Stonehands1990]

Then you weren't watching very well. For the record, over the past 3 years, Korpisalo and Price sit #1 and #2 in playoff SV%, among all starters who played in more than one series.

At the conclusion of round 1 Campbell had better save % than Price as well

 

[Stonehands1990]

Theres more but a stopped looking there....also a ton of highlights from the entire playoffs for him. Really got in a groove. Damn Leafs and their "perimeter shots" screwed them. Price had nothing to do with it right?

How is the 2nd one considering “robbing” Nylander when Price is out of his crease and Nylander has zero angle to shoot at?

Ever played hockey before?

The one on Brodie wasn’t special at all either