Leafs have a soup guy every ~5 years it seems... Andrew Soupy Campbell previously held the honour before Ilya Soupy MikheyevWhats with Leafs players and soup?
Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Ilya Mikheyev signs extension (2 years, $1.645M AAV)
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what was his ask? and before you say it, his arvitration filing # is not his real ask.
Was smart of Mikheyev to do this. By negotiating his own contract he could weigh more money into the 2nd ywar and take home more money over the next 2 years than he would in an equivalent arbitration result.
creative cap work that will probably be leveraged by more of these arbitration cases.
creative cap work that will probably be leveraged by more of these arbitration cases.
Uncle Scrooge
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Kind of a bold prediction considering he was scoring like a 60 point winger (pace/82) in the KHL at the ages of 23 & 24. Typically guys who end up scoring 60 points in the NHL were doing better in the K.
Last season was the most important season of his career so he probably worked/prepared as hard as he could, and considering he's 26 chances are there's limited potential left to achieve.
As much as it's possible he can do well on the 2nd line full-time and build on last year, it's also possible we already saw his best hockey which would mean he can play worse. 39 games really isn't much of a sample size when it comes to projecting full season totals and consistency.
I was expecting something between 2-2.5M but good for the Leafs they got him for cheaper. Don't get me wrong, i like Mikheyev and saw him play in the KHL as well. But am i sold on him being a full-time 2nd liner? Not really. I could see him settling down as a 3rd liner who provides depth scoring and gets bumped up to the top 6 every now and then. He often looks good but it takes more than that to produce almost every night.
Jury is still out.
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Uncle Scrooge
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So right now the Leafs are cap compliant if Sandin and Engvall start in the minors and Boyd/Marincin eat popcorn. Barely. If they want Engvall in they have to run 21 man roster.
Does this mean Dermott is gone? Lehtonen is killing it in the KHL.
The Podium
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Honestly I think Engvall might have priced himself out of the line-up, pending what he brings in training camp, of course.
Ultimately, what would he use as a comparison? He didn't really play alot and he doesn't have multiple seasons to go back to.... I think it's fair for both sides. He can make good bank after next year when the leafs can't afford him anymore
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PatriceBergeronFan
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2 years puts him as a UFA. I think 1 would have kept him as an RFA, so leafs probably choose 1 year if it went to arbitration. Although, they did offer 2 x 1 million, so maybe they couldn't care less about the contract ending in UFA status. *Shrugs*
PatriceBergeronFan
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It sounds like a great story to get fans excited. It appears to have worked.
Leaf Fans
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I don't know how excited our fans are, but the fact that he did that is like you say - a great story.
The Winter Soldier
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This is my take, he only played 39 games last year, so he is kind of unproven still. Played 5 in the playoffs and was pointless. So while 1.65 for 2 years is not a major investment, it is when cap dollars are scarce right now with some RFA's not even being qualified. It's a new cap world today. He should be a 3rd line. Not sure you want him in the top 6.
Did you question everything this much? Like did you ask for proof from your mother to confirm that she was indeed, your actual mother? Good lord. Must be exhuasting.
TheGroceryStick
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What a frigen good contract. It helps us out a whole lot that he kept that hit low.
Big body winger that has speed to burn and seems to mesh well with anyone.
The injury knocked him back a bit..really couldn't get his legs going.
I have zero worry about soup not finding his next gear.
He will be a perfect utility winger in this lineup..
Big body winger that has speed to burn and seems to mesh well with anyone.
The injury knocked him back a bit..really couldn't get his legs going.
I have zero worry about soup not finding his next gear.
He will be a perfect utility winger in this lineup..
TheGroceryStick
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I doubt you're from Toronto..but I'm sure youd love to read certain articles in "The Sun" newspaper.
ToDavid
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KHL stats are such a mystery box because they're so team dependent. He led his team in scoring with 38 points in 2017-18. Led them again the next year.
Of course, after 39 games the jury is definitely out. But even if he's only a 15-20 goal, 40-50 point winger who's competent defensively and great on the PK, I'm perfectly happy.
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It's called having an understanding of the current economic landscape, and doing what's best for both parties.
Analyze, and understand the details, and it quickly becomes apparent why this happened this way.
1st year salary, $1.1 million
2nd year salary $ 2.19 million
Average $1.645 million.
This is a hedge against a shortened season, where it's appearing as though there will be significant escrow, and even a potential to reduce salaries, if there are less games than expected. There might not be fans in seats, and the probability that the 2021/22 season is affected, is less than the 2020/21 season. This is a bet, that he'll actually earn more money, by taking a larger amount in year two, and sacrificing year one some, as opposed to something like a $1.8 in each season. Welcome to the Covid hedge contract.
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IMO you need those Hyman type players in the top 6 and Mikheyev reminds me of a more skilled Hyman
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Good signing. Guy is a player, who shows up every shift. Considering the high likelihood of a very condensed schedule, and extra travel of a Canadian division, the older guys (Jumbo and Simmonds) will likely need some games off. Mikey can play up and down the lineup as needed. He’s kind of a fair priced Swiss Army Knife.
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If we can get Dermott for 1.2 then that will leave 968k for 1 spare. 1 of Sandin, Lehtonen, Lilj, Vesey, Barabanov or Korshkov.
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Great deal by the Leafs, I was expecting 2.25-2.5 to be honest. Very good off season by the Leafs. I feel they addressed all the concerns people had about the composition of the team. Brodie is a huge piece, adding good leadership and grit to the bottom 6 and they were still able to add futures and shed cap in the Kapanen and Johnsson deals, while not losing skill (Mikheyev and Robertson should replace Kap and AJ). I think the Leafs had the most productive off season on paper. I am looking forward to watching them play this year, unfortunately the Canuck fan in me does want them to fail miserably but Leaf fans must be stoked with the way this off season went.
MoreMogilny
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Very happy with this contract. He seemed to be improving every game before the injury happened.
I can see him lining up alongside Tavares this season and assuming he makes at least a marginal improvement in production, this deal looks great.
I can see him lining up alongside Tavares this season and assuming he makes at least a marginal improvement in production, this deal looks great.
