Confirmed Trade: [TOR/COL] Tyson Barrie (@50%) , A. Kerfoot, '20 6th for Nazem Kadri, C. Rosen, '20 3rd - Pt.3

[flyfysher]

Last couple of games it looked almost as if Barrie doesn't have a clue on how to play the NHL game... Its clear he's still acclimatizing to a new team with new systems. Hopefully we can see the Barrie that Avalanche fans told us he was...

It's kinda hard to argue with all the points that Barrie scored if you're implying Avs fans were dishonest. What was it? 59 points? That wasn't an accident. The TML got an outstanding offensive player in Barrie and I'm writing that as someone who was never part of the Barrie brigade among Avs fans. I didn't usually pay a lot of attention to Barrie but one of our respected posters noted that Barrie has a rep for starting out slow but by the 20th game or so, he should break out.

 

[Ararana]

Barrie was a product of MacKinnon

am I doing this right?

 

[S E P H]

Last couple of games it looked almost as if Barrie doesn't have a clue on how to play the NHL game... Its clear he's still acclimatizing to a new team with new systems. Hopefully we can see the Barrie that Avalanche fans told us he was...

Read #3 post of this thread.

 

[GBLeaf]

Delighted to see Naz doing well in Colorado. Good on him.

He'll get more appreciation from the masses now he doesn't have a Leaf on his sweater too. Deserves way more respect than he gets.

 

[flyfysher]

Delighted to see Naz doing well in Colorado. Good on him.

He'll get more appreciation from the masses now he doesn't have a Leaf on his sweater too. Deserves way more respect than he gets.

Impressed as all heck with Kadri. Dude is a warrior and he stands up for his teammates.

 

[Spender]

Barrie is struggling first month or two of every season and changing team has probably amplified that. You'll come around on him, he's a good player!

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Him being a Norris contender now that he's in the east was something being posted by some in your fanbase, also the notion he would outshine Rielly, I'd call these overrating his abilities.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that was like two people holy shit

Stop acting like we're used car salesmen who sold you a lemon. Plenty of us were fully honest in our examinations of Barrie's game and you make a fool of yourself by acting like you weren't warned about his warts as a player.

In addition, please don't come back to this thread when you tire of Kerfoot too.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Lame excuse.

I don't think Babcock is putting a leash on him at all...

He had a bad history of doing that with our D-man in Detroit in my opinion.

 

[Cotton]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that was like two people holy ****

Stop acting like we're used car salesmen who sold you a lemon. Plenty of us were fully honest in our examinations of Barrie's game and you make a fool of yourself by acting like you weren't warned about his warts as a player.

In addition, please don't come back to this thread when you tire of Kerfoot too.

You post a paragraph of capitalized laughing like some prepubescent girl spazzing about a Bieber album release and I'm the one who looks bad? Righty-right.

That stuff was posted and you can't excuse away stupidity by one upping it. The only reason it was ever even brought up is because some of you refuse to accept he's not that awesome - and search for excuses.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Delighted to see Naz doing well in Colorado. Good on him.

He'll get more appreciation from the masses now he doesn't have a Leaf on his sweater too. Deserves way more respect than he gets.

This deal will help Avs win cup

 

[TeddyBare]

Barrie is not it.

I dont know, but he is not who Toronto Should have targeted.
Not saying he is bad player, but just a bad bad bad target in the type of D-man they need.

 

[leafsfan5]

Barrie is struggling first month or two of every season and changing team has probably amplified that. You'll come around on him, he's a good player!

I really hope you're right

 

[sabresfan129103]

I knew this thread would be bumped. He was brutal tonight for the Leafs.

I guess I don't understand Dubas logic with this trade. The leafs didn't have trouble scoring goals. They needed another d-man who can lock it down. This almost feels like an NHL19 trade to acquire as much offense as possible.

 

[supsens]

He had a bad history of doing that with our D-man in Detroit in my opinion.

So he expects the d-man to play his position? I don't think many coaches like the idea of getting Barrie mad points and ending up a minus 20 at the end of the year. He is a combined -68 the last four years and it's not looking good so far this year again.
Although to be fair he did a lot better last year, but that may have had something to do with those forwards he had

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I knew this thread would be bumped. He was brutal tonight for the Leafs.

I guess I don't understand Dubas logic with this trade. The leafs didn't have trouble scoring goals. They needed another d-man who can lock it down. This almost feels like an NHL19 trade to acquire as much offense as possible.

Dubas looks over his head.

 

[Nithoniniel]

wut?

Alright, one play. There's probably another somewhere that I've missed.

But you guys know better than most that the expectation was that this would be if not something on display on a nightly basis, then at least close to it.

 

[ijuka]

So he expects the d-man to play his position? I don't think many coaches like the idea of getting Barrie mad points and ending up a minus 20 at the end of the year. He is a combined -68 the last four years and it's not looking good so far this year again.
Although to be fair he did a lot better last year, but that may have had something to do with those forwards he had

The point is, if he's going to be terrible defensively anyway, just allow him free rein and at least get the offense.

Honestly, if Leafs were looking for a well-rounded defenseman, they should never have targeted Barrie.

Well, not that I'm an expert on Barrie or Avs or anything. But that much was kind of obvious. Forcing him to focus on playing D will just make him bad and not good at anything.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

So he expects the d-man to play his position? I don't think many coaches like the idea of getting Barrie mad points and ending up a minus 20 at the end of the year. He is a combined -68 the last four years and it's not looking good so far this year again.
Although to be fair he did a lot better last year, but that may have had something to do with those forwards he had

He’s going to be a trainwreck defensively either way. I’d rather a 60 point bad defensive player than a 25 point one though.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Impressed as all heck with Kadri. Dude is a warrior and he stands up for his teammates.

Dumbest trade the maple leafs could have make

 

[MikeK]

Yep. I said as much when the trade was announced and some around here were calling it a steal for Toronto. Kadri is a legit 2nd/3rd line C signed to a ridiculous cap hit with term. The Leafs could have done better with such an asset. I don't think Barrie is worth what it'll take to re-sign him but they really have no choice. If he walks as a UFA the trade will look even worse. It's looking like a pretty bad trade for Toronto.

 

[Drew311]

People seem to forget we got Kerfoot in the trade. He’s looked great so far and I would take a Kerfoot - Kadri swap on its own. Kerfoot is signed longer and cheaper, and will produce just as much on the third line. The kid can fly and has a great motor. Kadri’s foot speed went down hill last year and just didn’t fit as the 3C. Let’s give Barrie some more time to adjust. He’ll be a good dman for the Leafs.

 

[ole ole]

People seem to forget we got Kerfoot in the trade. He’s looked great so far and I would take a Kerfoot - Kadri swap on its own. Kerfoot is signed longer and cheaper, and will produce just as much on the third line. The kid can fly and has a great motor. Kadri’s foot speed went down hill last year and just didn’t fit as the 3C. Let’s give Barrie some more time to adjust. He’ll be a good dman for the Leafs.

Ya just what the Leafs needed 2 more players without an ounce of grit.

 

[Drew311]

Yep. I said as much when the trade was announced and some around here were calling it a steal for Toronto. Kadri is a legit 2nd/3rd line C signed to a ridiculous cap hit with term. The Leafs could have done better with such an asset. I don't think Barrie is worth what it'll take to re-sign him but they really have no choice. If he walks as a UFA the trade will look even worse. It's looking like a pretty bad trade for Toronto.

Recency bias is a hell of a thing. Go back to the threads after Kadri got suspended for the second consecutive playoffs. There was a strong narrative from other fan bases that he was worthless and no team would take him as a cap dump.

 

[General Disarray]

Avs did well because they had the new D propsects coming up which made Barrie expendable. They needed secondary scoring. It was excellent assett management. It's what Chia tried to do with Hall except Sakic got equal value. Leafs had the right idea as well but they should have targets a more defensive player. Still, they don't need Kadri anyway so it's not as huge a loss.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Looks like the Leafs did not understand what kind of a player they were getting in Barrie. An excellent offensive weapon as long he is allowed to play the way he needs to, not looking like that will ever happen in Toronto.

Not going to be a good look for Dubas if this ends up being a Kadri for Kerfoot swap, which is most likely will.