Confirmed with Link: [TOR/COL] Nazem Kadri, Calle Rosen for Tyson Barrie (50% retain), Alex Kerfoot trade (continued)

[thewave]

Yup. Fully agree with this.

It’s like we can’t just accept we got a big D add and a manageable downgrade at C for Kadri. Now Kadri wasn’t being fully utilized here as 3rd C which helps make sense of the trade, Kerfoot fine in the 3 hole. To say Kerfoot is as good as Kadri is absurd.

I’ve liked Kerfoot so far, but I also think his wingers are absolutely driving that line.

The deal was fine, especially if Barrie signs here fore a reasonable hit. Good player.

 

[PromisedLand]

It’s like we can’t just accept we got a big D add and a manageable downgrade at C for Kadri. Now Kadri wasn’t being fully utilized here as 3rd C which helps make sense of the trade, Kerfoot fine in the 3 hole. To say Kerfoot is as good as Kadri is absurd.

I’ve liked Kerfoot so far, but I also think his wingers are absolutely driving that line.

Moore and Mikheyev are playing on a different level than Kerfoot on that line for sure

 

[mcleex]

Kadri with 1G 2A tonight

 

[DarkKnight]

Kadri with 1G 2A tonight

I choose to be happy for Naz and see the upside to the trade. I’m weird like that.

 

[Legion34]

I choose to be happy for Naz and see the upside to the trade. I’m weird like that.

That’s unpossible

 

[The CyNick]

Naz hitting his stride and Colorado looking like contenders. #jealous.

 

[mulefarm]

The deal was fine, especially if Barrie signs here fore a reasonable hit. Good player.

What would you consider a reasonable hit?

 

[Menzinger]

Kerfoot has 57% CF% with 56% dzone starts.

I've always been a fan of Kadri but some folks here are really sleeping on Kerfoot's effectiveness. The suggestion hes being carried by his wingers doesnt stand up to much scrutiny (people are confusing exciting playing style with impact). He doesnt make highlightreel plays, but he could end up being one of the top defensive forwards on the team by years end.

 

[Gabriel426]

He'll probably win the cup this year. Everyone who is anyone here leaves and wins a cup it seems.

Kind of like whoever have Taylor Hall, the team chances of getting the 1st overall pick just jumps from okay to really really good.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Kerfoot has 57% CF% with 56% dzone starts.

I've always been a fan of Kadri but some folks here are really sleeping on Kerfoot's effectiveness. The suggestion hes being carried by his wingers doesnt stand up to much scrutiny. He doesnt make highlightreel plays, but he could end up being one ofnthe top defensive forwards on the team by years end.

Saying Kerfoot is somehow a level below his wingers is doing him a massive disservice for sure. Kerfoot's already been one of the best defensive players on the team I'd say, and he really frees up Moore and Mikheyev to take chances

 

[thewave]

Kind of like whoever have Taylor Hall, the team chances of getting the 1st overall pick just jumps from okay to really really good.

haha, I never thought about that one. That's awesome and true!

 

[thewave]

What would you consider a reasonable hit?

Depending how he performs 5-6m? I know they floated 8m but that's insane. Jake Gardiner is better all around or was before his back injury.

 

[Gabriel426]

Kadri is gone, even if he turns into someone who wins the MVP for the next 5 yrs, he is not coming back. having Barrie for 1 yr and Kerfoot under contract for 3 yrs cheaper than Kadri is a great deal for the Leafs.
It was a good deal for both teams.

 

[Menzinger]

Saying Kerfoot is somehow a level below his wingers is doing him a massive disservice for sure. Kerfoot's already been one of the best defensive players on the team I'd say, and he really frees up Moore and Mikheyev to take chances

The wingers play with a more frantic playing style - and I think it makes them seem like they're doing more than they are. Kerfoots playing style is calmer but hes always making smart plays.

Imo any concerns that he couldn't play centre should be washed away now

 

[Mighty Makar]

Depending how he performs 5-6m? I know they floated 8m but that's insane. Jake Gardiner is better all around or was before his back injury.

$5M-$6M for Barrie? Good luck with that.

 

[thewave]

$5M-$6M for Barrie? Good luck with that.

I did say a deal. Everything really depends on how he is this year. I mean, if on this team he isn't very good defensively and pulls up 45pts only, people will question the 8m ask price.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I did say a deal. Everything really depends on how he is this year. I mean, if on this team he isn't very good defensively and pulls up 45pts only, people will question the 8m ask price.

I think he’s getting at least $8M.

 

[thewave]

I think he’s getting at least $8M.

Could be. I thought Jake would get 6 and he pulls 4m. It's crazy, wasn't just me that said the 6 range but it could have been the non disclosure of medical records.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Could be. I thought Jake would get 6 and he pulls 4m. It's crazy, wasn't just me that said the 6 range but it could have been the non disclosure of medical records.

I guess we’ll see. He’ll be a hot commodity.

 

[Legion34]

I think he’s getting at least $8M.

Wasn’t his rumoured ask 8?

Toronto would be the only team that could give 8 years.....

Josi (taxes) and Petro are supposedly being offered 8.25ish.

From a person who watches Barrie more than us.....
Where do you rank him as a ufa D?

I was hoping for 7.5ish x 8. Which would be about 60 million. A team would have. To offer 8.5 to beat that....

How much of a step down is Barrie compared to Josi and Petro?

 

[Cleetus]

I think he’s getting at least $8M.

lol maybe hold your horses and see how the season goes no? thewave is right if he has a bad year 8 million will not happen.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Wasn’t his rumoured ask 8?

Toronto would be the only team that could give 8 years.....

Josi (taxes) and Petro are supposedly being offered 8.25ish.

From a person who watches Barrie more than us.....
Where do you rank him as a ufa D?

I was hoping for 7.5ish x 8. Which would be about 60 million. A team would have. To offer 8.5 to beat that....

How much of a step down is Barrie compared to Josi and Petro?

Those guys are definitely better than Barrie. If you guys can get him at under $8M, that’s a good deal, in my opinion.

 

[DarkKnight]

Those guys are definitely better than Barrie. If you guys can get him at under $8M, that’s a good deal, in my opinion.

It’s going to be an interesting story, because at the moment his defensive acumen suggests he’s no where near that cap hit. As a matter of fact, one could make a very compelling argument that Muzzin is more valuable to this team, should be the sign priority....with of course the big AGE caveat that everyone will point out with Muzz.

 

[ULF_55]

Naz hitting his stride and Colorado looking like contenders. #jealous.

He has to keep up with Bozak!

#SOP

 

[54thecup]

Those guys are definitely better than Barrie. If you guys can get him at under $8M, that’s a good deal, in my opinion.

This will be an interesting year for UFA D like Petro, Barrie, Krug, Schultz, Brodie, etc.

For me, I want to see way more of Barrie before giving a commitment.

Boston has shown no love for Krug despite his pleas for a new deal. Looks like a good example of how to hard bargain imo.

Speaking of stabbing your Stanley Cup winning captain in the back, look at how Petro is being squeezed by St. Louis!

With this and the uncertainty due the upcoming expansion draft, I wouldn't be committing anyone yet, there are value D to be acquired for next year.