Prospect Info: The Prospect Thread (Part XXX)

[MS]

I thought Gaunce played great last year in Vancouver despite not getting any points.

He's the type of player that will eventually put up points in the NHL just give him time. He can develop into a 15-15 type of 3rd liner. A real rock in the defensive zone. A key player to have.

Yeah, Gaunce's stat line last year is very misleading. He was excellent in his games down the stretch and just very unlucky offensively.

He had 28 SOG in his last 13 games which is absurdly good for a guy getting 3rd/4th line minutes, and if he can do anything remotely close to that it will translate to excellent production in a larger sample size.

His possession numbers were terrific for a rookie getting tough defensive minutes (60% d-zone starts) and he looked good by the eye test as well and was one of our better forwards almost every night over the last month of the season.

If he isn't on our opening-day roster I'll be very disappointed.

 

[Horrorshow]

Personally I think Granlund need to be absolutely terribad to be waived. Etem and Dorsett I bet have their spots fairly locked up, at least to start the season. Realistically I think Gauce's chance to make the team will come midsession when we hit injuries or if one of those players is waived.

Gaunce shows good progression, doubled his production from his rookie year. If he keeps up a .8ppg+ next season he should be a good first callup.

Agree with this. No matter how good Gaunce plays in camp/pre-season, or how bad one of our established bottom-sixers plays, I don't think he'll get a shot until injuries hit. He could displace Etem or Granlund, but they will probably get the benefit of the doubt for the first couple of weeks/months into the season.

 

[VanJack]

Personally I think Granlund need to be absolutely terribad to be waived. Etem and Dorsett I bet have their spots fairly locked up, at least to start the season. Realistically I think Gauce's chance to make the team will come midsession when we hit injuries or if one of those players is waived.

Gaunce shows good progression, doubled his production from his rookie year. If he keeps up a .8ppg+ next season he should be a good first callup.

No doubt about it......no matter how terrible Granlund is, he's on the team. Can you imagine what would happen if they waived him and then Shinkaruk ends up lighting it up in Calgary?....that might happen anyway, but they'll try to avoid that odious comparison as long as they can....of course that's reason why the trade was such a head-scratcher from the beginning....traded their top prospect winger for a depth centre, when they already had Gaunce and Zalewski to fill that role.

 

[Luck 6]

No doubt about it......no matter how terrible Granlund is, he's on the team. Can you imagine what would happen if they waived him and then Shinkaruk ends up lighting it up in Calgary?....that might happen anyway, but they'll try to avoid that odious comparison as long as they can....of course that's reason why the trade was such a head-scratcher from the beginning....traded their top prospect winger for a depth centre, when they already had Gaunce and Zalewski to fill that role.

Maybe... But, if Gaunce is to play LW, which is what they're grooming him for, it would have been hard to make room for both him and Shink

 

[Kickassguy]

Maybe... But, if Gaunce is to play LW, which is what they're grooming him for, it would have been hard to make room for both him and Shink

I dunno - it's not as though our organizational forward depth is so good that we can afford to pass up on a pair of young wingers in their early 20s who're showing well (assuming Shink shows well).

If nothing else, they'd at least serve as quality trade bait - or should, in the hands of a better GM.

 

[iloveloov*]

Yeah, Gaunce's stat line last year is very misleading. He was excellent in his games down the stretch and just very unlucky offensively.

He had 28 SOG in his last 13 games which is absurdly good for a guy getting 3rd/4th line minutes, and if he can do anything remotely close to that it will translate to excellent production in a larger sample size.

His possession numbers were terrific for a rookie getting tough defensive minutes (60% d-zone starts) and he looked good by the eye test as well and was one of our better forwards almost every night over the last month of the season.

If he isn't on our opening-day roster I'll be very disappointed.

Granlund is better than Gaunce at everything except being big.

 

[M2Beezy]

Granlund is better than Gaunce at everything except being big.

No Granlund is a joke he cant play hockey and he is the WRONG Granlund. Still have no idea what Benning was thinking

 

[iloveloov*]

No Granlund is a joke he cant play hockey and he is the WRONG Granlund. Still have no idea what Benning was thinking

Granlund was roughly 4 times more productive than Gaunce last season.

Markus Granlund
16GP 2G 1A ~ 0.2 Pts/GP

Brendan Gaunce
20GP 1G 0A ~ 0.05 Pts/GP

Granlund also much more productive than Gaunce in the AHL. The only thing Gaunce would have over for him is size but Gaunce plays like he's 5 inches shorter than he really is so that barely matters. Gaunce will get sent down and probably traded away now that we have a similar but better player in Granlund.

 

[ahmon]

I really like Gaunce as well.

Not only do I think he can be a good bottom 6 forward, I think he can be a complimentary forward that can play up and down the lineup.

The key for him was to improve his skating. And once that happened - by end of last year - he was doing a lot of good things.

I also think moving him to the wing, helped him. It forced him to move his feet more and play a more aggressive game.

Large frame, smart, with strong work ethic.

 

[NFITO]

I dont understand the continued use of Gaunce as a winger. Might have made sense when you had McCann along with Horvat in the system but right now Gaunce looks like the perfect fit to develop as a bottom-6 center. His developmenr should have him in a 4th line role now and eventually move up to a 3rd line role.

Seems like a perfect fit as a longterm 3rd line center for this team... he's progressed well in the A and looks ready fir a 4th line role now. Wish they would have kept him at center though.

 

[Pip]

Granlund was roughly 4 times more productive than Gaunce last season.

Markus Granlund
16GP 2G 1A ~ 0.2 Pts/GP

Brendan Gaunce
20GP 1G 0A ~ 0.05 Pts/GP

Granlund also much more productive than Gaunce in the AHL. The only thing Gaunce would have over for him is size but Gaunce plays like he's 5 inches shorter than he really is so that barely matters. Gaunce will get sent down and probably traded away now that we have a similar but better player in Granlund.

Neither stat line is good at all. Gaunce still showed better than Granlund while being a year younger.

 

[M2Beezy]

Granlund was roughly 4 times more productive than Gaunce last season.

Markus Granlund
16GP 2G 1A ~ 0.2 Pts/GP

Brendan Gaunce
20GP 1G 0A ~ 0.05 Pts/GP

Granlund also much more productive than Gaunce in the AHL. The only thing Gaunce would have over for him is size but Gaunce plays like he's 5 inches shorter than he really is so that barely matters. Gaunce will get sent down and probably traded away now that we have a similar but better player in Granlund.

Well thats cause Willie D had to give him every chance in the world cause idiot Benning just traded are Shincky for the Wrong Granlund so makes sense he might get a couple points but the fact he only got 3 is pretty pathetic. Hes not a NHL player and Gaunce is young and growing and works so hard he will be the 4C this year and maybe by next year 3C pushing Sutter to the 4th line

 

[Alexistheman]

Our forward prospects aside from Boeser... Help. JB attempted to bridge an age group gap and ended up creating a new one. We effectively have 2 forward prospects with any decent chance of being a good player in the NHL.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Fri, Sept 16

Youngstars
Edmonton 4 Vancouver 1

Marc-Olivier Roy (unassisted)

S_C

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Sun Feb 18

Young Stars
Winnipeg 2 Vancouver 3

Danny Moynihan (Troy Stecher)
Cole Cassels (Tyler Coulter, Michael Carcone)
Tyler Coulter (Evan McEneny)

S_C

 

[PM]

Our forward prospects aside from Boeser... Help. JB attempted to bridge an age group gap and ended up creating a new one. We effectively have 2 forward prospects with any decent chance of being a good player in the NHL.

Yeah we have a severe lack of scoring forward prospects in our system. It's basically Boeser and... Subban if we convert him to a forward? And yes this is exactly why you have never heard of this age gap garbage before these guys took over.

 

[M2Beezy]

Yeah we have a severe lack of scoring forward prospects in our system. It's basically Boeser and... Subban if we convert him to a forward? And yes this is exactly why you have never heard of this age gap garbage before these guys took over.

Also Gaudette but apparently cause hes American he cant play in this tourny or pre season games for us if he doesnt have a contract. But cant forget about him hes a hidden gem

 

[Bad Goalie]

Also Gaudette but apparently cause hes American he cant play in this tourny or pre season games for us if he doesnt have a contract. But cant forget about him hes a hidden gem

It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he's an American. He could be a canadian, Russian, Swede, or Martian. He is a colege player for Northeastern University. The NCAA forbids its players from participating. It's the same reason Boeser can't be there and Demko couldn't attend while he was in college.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

Also Gaudette but apparently cause hes American he cant play in this tourny or pre season games for us if he doesnt have a contract. But cant forget about him hes a hidden gem

Gaudette can play in this tournament if he pays his own way, but because of NCAA rules he can't receive money from his pro club—it has nothing to do with his nationality.

Canucks had a college prospect do this within the last handful of years or so, but I can't recall who off the top of my head (maybe Schroeder?).

Also, Gaudette showed good progress for his draft position, but let's not get (way) too ahead of ourselves and call him a "hidden gem."

 

[HankNDank]

Yeah we have a severe lack of scoring forward prospects in our system. It's basically Boeser and... Subban if we convert him to a forward? And yes this is exactly why you have never heard of this age gap garbage before these guys took over.

Baertchi? Horvat? Virtanen? Rodin? We still have prospects. Just because they are playing in the NHL, doesn't mean their prospect [pros-pekt]
noun
1.
Usually, prospects.

an apparent probability of advancement, success isn't still obvious. All of them will likely have a better year than they already have (maybe not Rodin, MVP of a league is pretty impressive). Including these players gets rid of the notion that JB created a new age gap too.

 

[Hit the post]

Granlund was roughly 4 times more productive than Gaunce last season.

Markus Granlund
16GP 2G 1A ~ 0.2 Pts/GP

Brendan Gaunce
20GP 1G 0A ~ 0.05 Pts/GP

Let's take a closer look at the numbers...

Granlund:
Total time on ice: 246.05
Power play time: 22.02

Guance:
Total time on ice: 255.10
Power play time: 8.16

 

[VanJack]

Also Gaudette but apparently cause hes American he cant play in this tourny or pre season games for us if he doesnt have a contract. But cant forget about him hes a hidden gem

Yes, Gaudette had a pretty impressive season as a rookie in the NCAA...and Will Lockwood is headed to Michigan, so can't play in this tournament either...I think it's fair to say that if those two guys and Boeser were in Penticton, they'd be three of the top forwards out there...so the cupboard's not completely bare.

 

[iloveloov*]

Let's take a closer look at the numbers...

Granlund:
Total time on ice: 246.05
Power play time: 22.02

Guance:
Total time on ice: 255.10
Power play time: 8.16

13 more minutes on the worst powerplay in the league is a negligible difference. That's less than 1 extra shift per game.

 

[Hit the post]

13 more minutes on the worst powerplay in the league is a negligible difference. That's less than 1 extra shift per game.

I'm not the one that made the statement that one was 4 times more productive than the other. You're talking about awful numbers (for either player).

My "facts" are no more misleading than yours.

 

[iloveloov*]

I'm not the one that made the statement that one was 4 times more productive than the other. You're talking about awful numbers (for either player).

My "facts" are no more misleading than yours.

"My" "facts" aren't misleading because they suggest Granlund is better than Gaunce which is the true reality.