GDT: The Pittsburgher Thread - NFL Draft

[Night Shift]

We do what we do!

 

[Night Shift]

Ben is a HOF QB and Matt is a 1st year OC. Are you surprised? At least we actually have a real OC now.

This is how bad it is watching the clown show for a decade.

It's his first year but he's a real one!! Its for realz this time guys.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This is how bad it is watching the clown show for a decade.

It's his first year but he's a real one!! Its for realz this time guys.

*Gets hired*
"Guys imma just let Ben do what he do..."
*Steelers Brass - Why tf we hire this dude?*

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Ben is a HOF QB and Matt is a 1st year OC. Are you surprised? At least we actually have a real OC now. I think his system is gimmicky, but he’s willing to be creative, which is a step in the right direction.

Ben needed to retire or f*** off after this season.

You see Brady finding ways to play as long as he can at a high level and Ben took a 10lb shit and everyone's like omg he's like less fatter than usual and he's popping off throws like a teenager with a quick trigger in the sack. But just like that teenager, it wasn't impressive at all the more we saw in a larger sample size.

Ben's numbers were also propped up for a few years because of Bell and Brown being very good in a system made for them. The moment Ben had to actually f***ing work, all the excuses came out to blame idiot coaches that were always idiots but Ben had to actually show what he can do and he showed us he's done.

He's done jack shit to help create a successor as well.

 

[Night Shift]

*Gets hired*
"Guys imma just let Ben do what he do

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We do what we do!

 

[xlm34]

Offensive Coordinator designs offense that plays to quarterbacks strength. Wow that only would happen in Pittsburgh.

Seriously what did people expect? They weren’t going to drastically change the offense with a 39 year old vet. It’s not going to be completely different but I’d be surprised to see 50 quick slants every game.

 

[T1K]

This is how bad it is watching the clown show for a decade.

It's his first year but he's a real one!! Its for realz this time guys.

Coach Randy was not an OC. Only by title.

 

[The Old Master]

It took Ben 2 years to adapt to Haley. You know he hates play action and Fitchner said he would have to get him out his comfort zone. He struggled with RPo under Haley and predetermines his reads and never moved his head

but they did put up the points

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Ben needed to retire or f*** off after this season.

You see Brady finding ways to play as long as he can at a high level and Ben took a 10lb shit and everyone's like omg he's like less fatter than usual and he's popping off throws like a teenager with a quick trigger in the sack. But just like that teenager, it wasn't impressive at all the more we saw in a larger sample size.

Ben's numbers were also propped up for a few years because of Bell and Brown being very good in a system made for them. The moment Ben had to actually f***ing work, all the excuses came out to blame idiot coaches that were always idiots but Ben had to actually show what he can do and he showed us he's done.

He's done jack shit to help create a successor as well.

You're right in the stuff about Ben’s play and how he doesn’t seem to have worked to keep himself able to do the work later into his career.

But it’s not his job to ‘create a successor’. To use your comp, what did Brady do to line up Cam Newton?

 

[DanielPlainview]

I’m more concerned with our o-line than teams stacking the box. If a team does that, good luck containing our receivers all game. While Ben might be washed physically, he is still a smart player who can find the open guy/make the right decision. If he is really bad, he will get benched for Rudolph. I’m low on Rudolph, but he’s an option if we need a boost mid-season.

Because last year Ben did so well picking apart defenses that played close to the line lol

 

[Night Shift]

Coach Randy was not an OC. Only by title.

What are you talking about? He's the best Offensive Clown in the league...what will we do now?

The show must go on I guess

 

[Honour Over Glory]

You're right in the stuff about Ben’s play and how he doesn’t seem to have worked to keep himself able to do the work later into his career.

But it’s not his job to ‘create a successor’. To use your comp, what did Brady do to line up Cam Newton?

I got a laugh out of the fansided article about Haskins and how Ben is serving as a mentor. It's not creating a successor, it's a leader being a f***ing leader mate. To me Ben just isn't a good one. It's odd to me how they're talking up Haskins and now acting like Rudolph isn't even there. This season is gonna be another shit show.

Leaders lead. They help younger players in the same positions. Same with how Letang and others do for defense and Sid and Geno do for the younger guys. Ben is always talked up as a "leader" and boy do they try super hard to keep pushing how he is some good one, but actions always speak louder than words.

 

[T1K]

Because last year Ben did so well picking apart defenses that played close to the line lol

We had no run game, completely different circumstances this year.

 

[T1K]

I got a laugh out of the fansided article about Haskins and how Ben is serving as a mentor. It's not creating a successor, it's a leader being a f***ing leader mate. To me Ben just isn't a good one. It's odd to me how they're talking up Haskins and now acting like Rudolph isn't even there. This season is gonna be another shit show.

Leaders lead. They help younger players in the same positions. Same with how Letang and others do for defense and Sid and Geno do for the younger guys. Ben is always talked up as a "leader" and boy do they try super hard to keep pushing how he is some good one, but actions always speak louder than words.

Rudolph was just given an extension thru next season recently.

 

[Iggy Smalls]

Ben is insecure like a lot of other great QB's. Tom Brady wouldn't give Jimmy G the time of the day, either.
I think Rudolph somehow intimidates him, which is why he's never been shy about praising Landry Jones, Josh Dobbs, and now Dwayne Haskins. It was hilarious a season or two ago when Ben said he values Dobbs insights on the game.... as a QB with 10 more passing yards than Jaylen Samuels.

 

[DanielPlainview]

We had no run game, completely different circumstances this year.

We had no run game because teams didn’t respect the mid to deep pass. That’s not going to change

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

We had no run game because teams didn’t respect the mid to deep pass. That’s not going to change

They didn’t have a running game because they had one of the worst stable of backs in the league.

I’m struggling to think of a team that had less talent at the position than oft injured JC and crew.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

We had no run game because teams didn’t respect the mid to deep pass. That’s not going to change

Michael Thomas said it best when he talked about Brees inability to throw it 20 yards. Of course the defense is going to cheat up towards the line and press.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

They didn’t have a running game because they had one of the worst stable of backs in the league.

I’m struggling to think of a team that had less talent at the position than oft injured JC and crew.

No Pouncy got handed his lunch a lot last year Decastro didn’t want to be here and fieler was terrible at LG. Chuks was not interested in blocking for 2seconds on a running play.
We got more yards from our rbs than kc and Buffalo got. Allen was Buffalo running attack

 

[DanielPlainview]

They didn’t have a running game because they had one of the worst stable of backs in the league.

I’m struggling to think of a team that had less talent at the position than oft injured JC and crew.

No. The run game struggled due to the ineptness of the coaching, the performance of the OL, and Ben. You don’t need all world RBs to have an effective run game but you a need a balanced attack and a game plan that keeps the defense on their toes - they had neither

 

[T1K]

No. The run game struggled due to the ineptness of the coaching, the performance of the OL, and Ben. You don’t need all world RBs to have an effective run game but you a need a balanced attack and a game plan that keeps the defense on their toes - they had neither

RBs absolutely do matter, game-breaking ones at least.

 

[DanielPlainview]

FFS. Of course a having a more skilled player at any position is preferable but that doesn’t change the fact the Steelers struggles last year were not caused by the lack of Najee Harris

 

[T1K]

FFS. Of course a having a more skilled player at any position is preferable but that doesn’t change the fact the Steelers struggles last year were not caused by the lack of Najee Harris

Yeah I mean our team YPC was 3.6 last year, dead last in the league. The team spent their 1st rd pick on a RB so clearly the organization thought that contributed greatly to our struggles. Not sure why you feel it’s necessary to drop these contrarian takes when it’s blatantly obvious our RBs sucked last year.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Oh please get off it. I’m not being contrarian, I’m pointing out the fact that the running game struggled not because our RBs weren’t all-pros but because our QB sucked, our OL sucked at run blocking, and our scheme sucked. I’m pointing out that upgrading at RB isn’t a major fix if the other things aren’t improved and there’s nothing yet that tells us they are. So go ahead and delude yourself into thinking Najee is a magic bullet and I’ll watch as you’re whining midseason that the offense still sucks and even then I’m sure you’ll refuse to concede the point

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

No. The run game struggled due to the ineptness of the coaching, the performance of the OL, and Ben. You don’t need all world RBs to have an effective run game but you a need a balanced attack and a game plan that keeps the defense on their toes - they had neither

Ya, their RBs were ass.

That matters.

If a back lacks vision, they aren’t going to be nearly as effective as a talented runner... like say, Harris.

As people will find out this Autumn, a shitty stable of backs was the most glaring issue last season.

When they suddenly have a good running game next season, it won’t suddenly be because the coaches figured out how to design better run plays.