The Pettersson and Hughes Contract Thread | Tick tock...

[F A N]

Too bad it wasn’t Myers that opted out.

Not really. Myers has 3 years left at $6M. If he opts out and the Canucks choose to remove this year there will be 2 years left at $6M. Hamonic will have 2 year left at $3M with no trade protection. So if the player opts out and comes back next year it's much easier to trade Hamonic, bury his contract in the minors, or even buy him out compared to Myers.

 

[Bobby9]

6 years 7.75-8 mill per.

If he wants to leave after then so be it. How long do you keep a player who doesn't want to be here? Trade him in the 4/5th season if he is still leaning towards leaving.

 

[F A N]

6 years 7.75-8 mill per.

If he wants to leave after then so be it. How long do you keep a player who doesn't want to be here? Trade him in the 4/5th season if he is still leaning towards leaving.

I think most of us would be happy with that deal if Petey will sign it.

 

[Breakers]

Not really. Myers has 3 years left at $6M. If he opts out and the Canucks choose to remove this year there will be 2 years left at $6M. Hamonic will have 2 year left at $3M with no trade protection. So if the player opts out and comes back next year it's much easier to trade Hamonic, bury his contract in the minors, or even buy him out compared to Myers.

Everybody struggles playing with Myers
It’s addition by subtraction.
If he opted out. It would be amazing.

 

[timw33]

If true, that's a bit insulting to Hughes.

On a 2-3 year deal, not really based on the Werenski and McAvoy 2nd contract comparables. But now Dahlin reset that market at 6mm on the short bridge, yeah, moreso.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Pettersson wants a little less than 9 million ok when you play a full 82 game season and put up more than 66pts you can talk about those numbers but until then you need to earn that type of contract.

66 points in a year that the team missed 13 games because of a pandemic. That's an important omission. He had 83 points in 84 games including the playoffs that year. That is similar to the best years of Eichel, Aho, Barzal, and Draisaitl when they were on their ELCs.

 

[krutovsdonut]

You also enjoy talking about your expertise on knowing what other people think, as well. It's hardly exclusive to you.

this was 100% you taking another shot at me supposedly being critical of pettersson which is a continuation of the same dig you have been making for two weeks now. it has nothing to do with anything else.

are you here to discuss hockey or just to endlessly take snarky little shots at me hoping they will stick?

 

[krutovsdonut]

Elliotte in 32 thoughts says Canucks offer to Hughes was in the 5's before Dahlin signed and now they have to up it.

that would be brutal if true.

 

[CpatainCanuck]

Elliotte in 32 thoughts says Canucks offer to Hughes was in the 5's before Dahlin signed and now they have to up it.

If true, that's a bit insulting to Hughes.

that would be brutal if true.

A GM being tough in negotiations is a good thing.

Benning being stingy with his best players while handing out 3 million dollar contracts to fourth liners is just a dumbass at work though.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Wait …. The GM doesn’t have a long discussion about COVID / playing with a player that was hesitant and opted out of playing because of it BEFORE he signed him? Lol.

attaboy Jimmmmmmy clown shoes.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

If Hamonic retires that will be close to $20M in cap space when factoring in Ferland. That's enough for two 8 year deals.

EP is gonna get walked in to UFA. You just watch. Aka , bolting the very second he can.

 

[canucksfan]

While he might get more money with Hamonic not playing, the defense will take a hit. The depth and quality is not there.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Idealistically, sure.

9M for a guy who’s never played a full season or hit 40 Gino’s.


What a world.

 

[krutovsdonut]

A GM being tough in negotiations is a good thing.

Benning being stingy with his best players while handing out 3 million dollar contracts to fourth liners is just a dumbass at work though.

i think any gm offering hughes under $6m after the makar and heiskanen deals for any term would be courting longterm disaster even if he felt things were 100% ok with that player.

i guess i will have to listen to this podcast.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Elliotte in 32 thoughts says Canucks offer to Hughes was in the 5's before Dahlin signed and now they have to up it.

5M offer was too much to be honest. The kid is a shitty defender with a shitty attitude and an asshat for a brother.


Until he can keep the puck out of his net , he shouldn’t see 5M.

He will get way more because he skates well and takes chances , that gets you paid in the NHL. Meanwhile the stay at home guys that are impossible to score when they are on the ice make 20% of that.

 

[krutovsdonut]

5M offer was too much to be honest. The kid is a shitty defender with a shitty attitude and an asshat for a brother.

haven't you been criticizing management for not getting these guys signed? now you think they are worth salaries so low that we would never be able to sign them at without playing hardball?

make up your mind.

 

[Hit the post]

While he might get more money with Hamonic not playing, the defense will take a hit. The depth and quality is not there.

It wasn’t great WITH Hamonic. Poor OEL will have his work cut out for him. Hope his back holds up carrying whoever he’s paired up with.

 

[CpatainCanuck]

i think any gm offering hughes under $6m after the makar and heiskanen deals for any term would be courting longterm disaster even if he felt things were 100% ok with that player.

i guess i will have to listen to this podcast.

Offering less than 6 million is ondoubtedly stingy, but Eliotte Friedman himself reported last week that the Canucks were trying to sign Hughes to a short-term bridge. So he per annum dollar amount is not directly comparable to what Heiskanen and Makar got on longer term deals.

 

[StreetHawk]

6 years 7.75-8 mill per.

If he wants to leave after then so be it. How long do you keep a player who doesn't want to be here? Trade him in the 4/5th season if he is still leaning towards leaving.

That is less than Aho for 5 years. So no he’s not taking that deal.

 

[Peen]

Glad to hear their previous offers to Hughes were in the fives.

That makes sense to me based on precedent. Now things change with Dahlin.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

5M offer was too much to be honest. The kid is a shitty defender with a shitty attitude and an asshat for a brother.


Until he can keep the puck out of his net , he shouldn’t see 5M.

He will get way more because he skates well and takes chances , that gets you paid in the NHL. Meanwhile the stay at home guys that are impossible to score when they are on the ice make 20% of that.

What? Shitty attitude, care to elaborate on that?

 

[Canuckle1970]

While he might get more money with Hamonic not playing, the defense will take a hit. The depth and quality is not there.

Yup, I wouldn't be using Hamonic's money to beef up those RFA contracts. We always lose defensemen to injuries, so we need that dough for depth.

 

[canucksfan]

Yup, I wouldn't be using Hamonic's money to beef up those RFA contracts. We always lose defensemen to injuries, so we need that dough for depth.

I am not sure if there are any defenders even out there to acquire.

 

[CpatainCanuck]

Elliotte in 32 thoughts says Canucks offer to Hughes was in the 5's before Dahlin signed and now they have to up it.

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Just listened to that segment of the podcast: You neglected to provide any context.

He talks about the Canucks' short-term offer to Hughes (3 years) being in the 5's. On a six-year deal he says they were "obviously higher than 6...probably in the 7s, but felt they had to adjust up after what Dahlin got".

 

[Hollywood Burrows]

5M offer was too much to be honest. The kid is a shitty defender with a shitty attitude and an asshat for a brother.


Until he can keep the puck out of his net , he shouldn’t see 5M.

He will get way more because he skates well and takes chances , that gets you paid in the NHL. Meanwhile the stay at home guys that are impossible to score when they are on the ice make 20% of that.

listen man if you want to really piss these guys off you need to stick to what you can prove. Like, I think hughes probably has a shitty attitude as well. I don't like spoiled little Marner-style My Dad is a Coach players. But I admit he hasn't done anything to justify it yet so I wouldn't go around saying it!