The Panarin Situation, Part 2

[Monk]

Thought that just occurred to me: If you believe the Jackets can win without Panarin as some here have said, then trading him at the TDL shouldn't be an issue. I don't believe they can.
If Jarmo & Co. decide to trade him I'm ok with that but if they want to go for it now then I think they should keep him.
Hopefully he signs a deal in the next couple of weeks and all of this becomes a nonissue.

Win the Cup you mean? I agree with this if so.

 

[NotWendell]

Islanders fans thought their management wouldn't be that silly with Tavares and look how that ended up..

With the Islanders in first place?

 

[MAHJ71]

With the Islanders in first place?

Again, what does being in 1st place at the mid point of the season get you?

Not a trophy that I'm aware of.

You think they wouldn't be better off with the assets they would have got trading Tavares? I think we all know the answer to that.

Also doesn't hurt Trotz agreed to help them put out the dumpster fire.

 

[Crede777]

What does the Islanders' record have to do with whether or not they should have traded Tavares?

The only relevant information is that which they had a year ago. The team missed the playoffs the prior year and had a strong likelihood of missing that year. That info goes into the "trade him" category. Meanwhile they knew Tavares was strongly considering re-signing and they may have been the favorites for a while until the night before free agency. That's an argument for keeping him.

 

[NotWendell]

You know I agree with you guys on trading Tavares. I just had to mix it up a little.

 

[EspenK]

So All-Star week break is over. Any reports of the discussion?

 

[MAHJ71]

You know I agree with you guys on trading Tavares. I just had to mix it up a little.

 

[DJA]

Has anyone confirmed that this meeting actually happened?

 

[EspenK]

Has anyone confirmed that this meeting actually happened?

Not that I'm aware of. Hopefully The Athletic is on the case.

 

[Monk]

Again, what does being in 1st place at the mid point of the season get you?

Not a trophy that I'm aware of.

You think they wouldn't be better off with the assets they would have got trading Tavares? I think we all know the answer to that.

Also doesn't hurt Trotz agreed to help them put out the dumpster fire.

What do you think the Jackets realistically get in a trade for an unextended Panarin?

 

[lilfedor]

What do you think the Jackets realistically get in a trade for an unextended Panarin?

A first and a prospect. Or a first and another pick.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

A first and a prospect. Or a first and another pick.

Rick Nash got a 1st, 2 forwards(Spooner and Belesky), a d prospect (Ryan Lindgren) and a 7th round pick from the Bruins. I would expect something similar or better if it comes down to it.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[lilfedor]

Rick Nash got a 1st, 2 forwards(Spooner and Belesky), a d prospect (Ryan Lindgren) and a 7th round pick from the Bruins. I would expect something similar or better if it comes down to it.

We will have to wait and see.

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

Sigh - can we just get this over with please?

What could the issue possibly be that requires a second meeting and couldn't be resolved with one?

 

[Madifer]

that unwillingness to share is disappointing!

 

[Madifer]

Sigh - can we just get this over with please?

What could the issue possibly be that requires a second meeting and couldn't be resolved with one?

yeah its not like Bread and his agent have an ungoing whatsapp or telegram conversation.

this is so lame

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Sigh - can we just get this over with please?

What could the issue possibly be that requires a second meeting and couldn't be resolved with one?

Maybe he just wants another free dinner

 

[CBJWerenski8]

No clue how to read into this, other than be annoyed at the stall tactics.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

You'd think that Panarin would have a pretty good idea by now

 

[Crede777]

Have to say I'm impressed with Millstein's acumen as an agent.

 

[Crede777]

You'd think that Panarin would have a pretty good idea by now

A quick no is just as unlikely as a quick yes. Regardless of if he wants to stay or not - giving the Jackets a definitive answer this early only serves to give them more control over the situation and Panarin less.

Could be readying for a major contract negotiation or could simply be trying to exert leverage over who he would get traded to.

 

[lilfedor]

that unwillingness to share is disappointing!

I kind of read this as Columbus made an offer that Milstein wasn’t expecting.

He now wants to follow up with Panarin to discuss.

So not a “we’re not signing no matter what” but rather a ... “we will have to get back to you...?”

 

[Viqsi]

Sigh - can we just get this over with please?

What could the issue possibly be that requires a second meeting and couldn't be resolved with one?

Total random hypothetical I just pulled out of nowhere:

"Hey, Artemi. Remember how we thought we knew what the situation was going to be one or the other, and that would decide whether or not you stay? There's a third option. Sounds pretty good to me. Need to know what you think of it."

I'm not happy with delay either, but it's not unreasonable.



EDIT: Or what @lilfedor and @Crede777 said.

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

I kind of read this as Columbus made an offer that Milstein wasn’t expecting.

He now wants to follow up with Panarin to discuss.

So not a “we’re not signing no matter what” but rather a ... “we will have to get back to you...?”

Possibly Panarin told Milstein he's not re-signing with the CBJ but Jarmo gave Milstein an offer significant enough to make him reconsider? That's seems plausible to me.