The Panarin Situation, Part 2

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  1. Viqsi where we're going we won't need eyes to see

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    Previously on the Panarin thread...



    And now... THE EXCITING CONCLUSION! G-d willing.
     
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    Porty is not making a lot of sense to me.

    "If they trade Panarin, I think they try to go "big-game hunting" as a way to give the players and fan base an emotional push. Matt Duchene and Mark Stone in Ottawa are guys to keep in mind, UFAs on a team that's DOA."

    Why would you rent out Panarin and then rent in Stone / Duchene? You net maybe a 2nd round pick out of that?

    Wouldn't "big-game hunting" be keeping Panarin, given that he's the highest value rental?

    Is Portzline just thinking in cliches here "can't lose him for nothing" and then not realizing that Panarin is just another rental, like Stone or Duchene?
     
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    Maybe he's thinking there's a better chance of retaining one of those guys. :dunno:
     
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    The question and the rest of his comment are clearly about deadline rentals, so it's in that context.
     
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    True, but it could be a subconscious thing. "Sure, they're rentals. But maybe, just maybe, they could be, y'know, MORE than that."
     
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    Especially when the rental (or his agent) isn't on record as saying "He's just not that into you."
     
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    I wonder if my preacher would be offended if I asked him to prayer for Panarin
    to resign with the Jackets?

     
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    Well, that should be an important step in this whole mess. Anything short of "let's start negotiating now and have it done before the TDL" is not going to be real encouraging to me. I don't want to see the Jackets get Tavaresed. If it isn't the start of solid negotiations then I think a trade is in order.
     
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    Remember when everyone said how terrible NYI would be without Tavares?

    They're 1 pt out of a playoff spot and have 2-3 games in hand..
     
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    Things sometimes happen when teams are routinely counted out and embarrassed by the mainstream media. Look at Colorado last year, Us after finishing last in 2011-12, and as you pointed out the Isles this year.

    Bringing in Barry Trotz and having Matthew Barzal to fall back on helps too. If you're implying we'll be fine without Panarin, well, point us to our Barzal.
     
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    If High Banks existed a few years ago we likely would have signed Zherdev to a lifetime contract with that kind of commitment :)
     
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    NYI has limited short/medium term potential; while CBJ can win the Cup.

    This slump has to end; right now. There is enough time to figure shit out and to be in top form by April.

    Panarin was quite visible and quite dangerous last night. He is selling himself very well.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    They also upgraded with a HOF coach, and have someone just as skilled as Panarin in Barzal..who should only continue to get better. Both of which have been huge for them.

    Jackets have Panarin and that's about it in terms of that level of a player. We don't have a Barzal that can lessen the blow of losing Panarin.
     
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    Dubois is having an equally good, if not better season.
     
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    You think PLD is on the same level as Barzal? :facepalm:

    PLD is good, and getting better... but I'm not taking him over Barzal any day of the week.
     
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    He's been better this year. That's just true.
     
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    No it’s not.
     
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    Better plus minus, Barzal's 2nd worst on his team

    Barzal crushed him last year. Not so far this year.
     
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    Dubois (20 years old) -42gp, 16g (2nd), 21a (2nd), 37pts (3rd), +6 (t6th)

    Barzal (21 years old) - 41gp, 12g (3rd), 26a (1st), 38pts (1st), -5 (22nd)
     
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    Barzal isn’t playing with Panarin and Atkinson. Barzal is one of the most skilled players in the league and could score every shift. Dubois while good is not the same player, not even remotely as dangerous.
     
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    Even Strenth

    Dubois - 15g, 17a, 32pts

    Barzal - 9g, 15a, 24pts
     
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    He could score every shift, but only has 9 even strength goals. He's a great player, but come on.
     
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