HF Habs: The Official hawks race to a better 2nd round pick Thread

[dcal64]

I agree when you are talking about picking between 38th to 40th vs picking around 97th (as of today) or picking in the say 139th t0 148th range (as of today) Of course it makes sense that you would rather pick higher at 38th then 40th but that 4th vs 5th rounder could be as high as 51 spots higher.

Not sure about your math, Habs will at best finish 3rd worst, so that's pick number 3 in round 4, the only way we get the 5th round pick is if LA misses the playoffs, so at best they finish 15th (16 teams that make playoffs, will pick after them). So the biggest difference will be 31 + 15 - 3, which is 43.

 

[montreal]

Not sure about your math, Habs will at best finish 3rd worst, so that's pick number 3 in round 4, the only way we get the 5th round pick is if LA misses the playoffs, so at best they finish 15th (16 teams that make playoffs, will pick after them). So the biggest difference will be 31 + 15 - 3, which is 43.

I was going off where the pick could end if they make the playoffs or not. Still 43 is a lot of picks to drop back vs 2 in the 2nd.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

The Kings are 1 point away from giving us our 4th pick back.

 

[Runner77]

The Kings are 1 point away from giving us our 4th pick back.

That's great news.

There are two more games Romanian: Thursday April 5th against the Wild and Saturday April 7th against Dallas.

Can't they be dispensed from having to earn the point simply by certain other teams losing or getting a tie?

 

[Treb]

That's great news.

There are two more games Romanian: Thursday April 5th against the Wild and Saturday April 7th against Dallas.

Can't they be dispensed of having to earn the point simply by certain other teams losing or getting a tie?

If 2 out of the 3 happen (or just the Anaheim one), they are in:
Anaheim goes 0-2-1 or worse
Colorado goes 1-0-1 or worse
STL goes 1-1-1 or worse (2-1-0 also work if they get a win in the SO)

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Blues and Avs play each other on Saturday night
I think the 4th rounder we are getting back is pretty much a lock

 

[Agalloch]

So it was Dwight King for Torrey Mitchell, I say that's a wash.

 

[Habs Halifax]

10 picks in the top 130 when we get our 4th back from the Kings. We’re going to be busy on draft day! Plus there will be Patch in play more likely.

Habs scouting needs to be solid!

 

[Tuggy]

Yes, this is a very important draft for the future of this franchise. They better not f*** it up.

 

[Bee Holder]

Montreal had one of the better draft last summer, let's hope they keep it up. This draft can be the real game changer for this franchise

 

[Bacchus1]

NYI passed the Hawks!

LA unlikely to be passed!

Fingers crossed for Coyotes win!

Only negative is Canucks look like they will lose to VGK.

 

[Bacchus1]

Strongly disagree. I'd take the better 2nd every time.

So, I can't find the stats, but I would wager that the percentage difference of getting an NHL player between the shift in 2nds (~40th to 38th) vs the shift from 5th to 4th (~150th-100th) is larger for the latter. There is probably a near 0% in the former, and 1-2% in the latter. Again, couldn't find the % for anything but whole rounds.

 

[Adam Michaels]

If LA wins against Minnesota on Thursday, they clinch. San Jose has clinched and they're at 98 points. LA is at 96.

However, if Blues lose in regulation tomorrow night against Hawks, then all LA will need is 1 point to get to 97, as the most the Blues can get after a regulation loss tomorrow is 96.

 

[G0bias]

However, if Blues lose in regulation tomorrow night against Hawks, then all LA will need is 1 point to get to 97, as the most the Blues can get after a regulation loss tomorrow is 96.

Doesn't really matter if Blues win all their games. As long as LA gets 1 more point they beat Colorado out of the last wildcard spot at 97pts, as they hold the tie-breaker.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Seems LA may not need to get that 1 point we were talking about earlier if Blues lose in any fashion.

 

[Peter Puck]

One thing in LA's favour is that St. Louis and Colorado play each other Saturday night.

 

[The Great Weal]

St. Louis needs to beat the Hawks, kings need to clinch another way.

 

[Redux91]

St. Louis needs to beat the Hawks, kings need to clinch another way.

Love those 2nd's droppin

 

[Sterling Archer]

Chi win.

 

[The Great Weal]

Lol f*** off Chicago. We got our 4th back though.

 

[The Great Weal]

Change the title to The Official Chicago Blackhawks race to a better 2nd round pick Thread

 

[dcal64]

Change the title to The Official Chicago Blackhawks race to a better 2nd round pick Thread

What about our Toronto and Washington 2nd round picks?

 

[Adam Michaels]

I'm happy both conditions have been met so Habs now get, at the moment of this writing, Pick #96.

I'm all for Hawks losing to make that 2nd pick higher. It should take precedence over a 4th round pick. However, the Hawks pick will vary from a few spots, whereas the 5th becoming a 4th is a 49 spot upgrade (Pick #145 to Pick #96).

 

[Adam Michaels]

What about our Toronto and Washington 2nd round picks?

Those will be late picks. At this moment, they are picks 56 and 57. And they can be later picks if they go deeper in the playoffs.

 

[The Great Weal]

What about our Toronto and Washington 2nd round picks?

Leafs are finishing 3rd in the division and caps 1st