HF Habs: The Official hawks race to a better 2nd round pick Thread

[sandviper]

and I would be really surprise if we keep the 4 2nd round pick ! I think he will or advanced to have an other 1st round or trade some for a player

I'd agree. I don't think we keep all 4 of our seconds. I'd think we'd be able to move up by using some combination of our second and/or Chicago's. I sure hope we don't do anything though and trade all 4 seconds for a couple of 3rd liners.

 

[Vachon23]

I'd agree. I don't think we keep all 4 of our seconds. I'd think we'd be able to move up by using some combination of our second and/or Chicago's. I sure hope we don't do anything though and trade all 4 seconds for a couple of 3rd liners.

I would like to advance for Veleno or Kotkaniemi

 

[sandviper]

I would like to advance for Veleno or Kotkaniemi

I don't think our early seconds may suffice though. We may have to add a prospect (don't laugh).

This is an older article, but it gives some idea of the value of picks.

What does it cost to trade up in the draft?

Assuming Veleno or Kotkaniemi go around 10th-14th, our 2nd and Chicago may only meet about 70-80% of the perceived value.

Now, if we were interested in a player like Kravtsov (I am very high on him), who I think will go early to mid-20s, our two picks may do it.

 

[Vachon23]

I don't think our early seconds may suffice though. We may have to add a prospect (don't laugh).

This is an older article, but it gives some idea of the value of picks.

What does it cost to trade up in the draft?

Assuming Veleno or Kotkaniemi go around 10th-14th, our 2nd and Chicago may only meet about 70-80% of the perceived value.

Now, if we were interested in a player like Kravtsov (I am very high on him), who I think will go early to mid-20s, our two picks may do it.

I was thinking if one of those start to fall sorry I was not clear

 

[sandviper]

I was thinking if one of those start to fall sorry I was not clear

I understand. We'll have to wait till draft day I guess. I am sure Kotkaniemi is rising and Veleno as well. However, sure, I could possibly see Veleno fall a bit but I'm going to guess he's still going top-20.

 

[Vachon23]

I understand. We'll have to wait till draft day I guess. I am sure Kotkaniemi is rising and Veleno as well. However, sure, I could possibly see Veleno fall a bit but I'm going to guess he's still going top-20.

I'm pretty sure to that the 2 gonna be top 20

 

[The Great Weal]

If Smith is still there at 15,you absolutely have to trade up

 

[MarkovsKnee]

We also need Toronto to lose in the first round that will give us another top 50 pick.

 

[The Great Weal]

The highest the Hawks 2nd can be is 39

 

[neil2005]

The highest the Hawks 2nd can be is 39

Actually if the oilers pass them in the standings the pick can go up to 38, but can go as low as 41 depending on what the 2 teams from NY do in their last games of their season

 

[The Great Weal]

Actually if the oilers pass them in the standings the pick can go up to 38, but can go as low as 41 depending on what the 2 teams from NY do in their last games of their season

They can't pass them once they lose tonight.

 

[Adam Michaels]

We also need Toronto to lose in the first round that will give us another top 50 pick.

Same for Washington.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Nice! LA is up 1-0 over the Wild... oh wait! Never mind.

 

[SakuKoivu11]

As of tonight
without knowing the first round lottery

we pick: players who were picked at this position in the past 10 years.

#5 overall pick (MTL)
Elias Pettersson
Olli Juolevi
Noah Hanifin
Michael Dal Colle
Elias Lindholm
Morgan Rielly
Ryan Strome
Nino Niederreiter
Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Karl Alzner

#36 overall pick (MTL)
Adam Clendening
Alex Petrovic

#39 overall pick (CHI)
Alex DeBrincat
John Gibson
Jakob Silfverberg

#55 overall pick (TOR)
Brandon Montour
Chris Tierney
Dmitri Orlov
Marco Scandella
T.J. Galiardi

#56 overall pick (WAS)
Vince Dunn
Ryan Donato
Artturi Lehkonen
Johan Larsson

#67 overall pick (MTL)
Adam Lowry

#98 overall pick (MTL)
Mike Reilly
Craig Smith

#100 overall pick (EDM)
Miles Wood
Chris Wideman

#129 overall pick (MTL)
Jamie Benn

#160 overall pick (MTL)
Josh Manson


First round there's like a good chance we will get an NHL player potential star.
Second round is also valuable but don't expect superstars.
Beyond third round is a crap shot.

 

[neil2005]

They can't pass them once they lose tonight.

Oilers up by 2 in the 3rd

 

[The Great Weal]

Oilers up by 2 in the 3rd

Pretty surprised they won

 

[neil2005]

Pretty surprised they won

Problem is chicago has more row. So we would need chicago to lose to stl and wpg to end the season and Edmonton lose to Vancouver in ot on Saturday.

 

[Adam Michaels]

As of tonight
without knowing the first round lottery

we pick: players who were picked at this position in the past 10 years.

#5 overall pick (MTL)
Elias Pettersson
Olli Juolevi
Noah Hanifin
Michael Dal Colle
Elias Lindholm
Morgan Rielly
Ryan Strome
Nino Niederreiter
Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Karl Alzner

#36 overall pick (MTL)
Adam Clendening
Alex Petrovic

#39 overall pick (CHI)
Alex DeBrincat
John Gibson
Jakob Silfverberg

#55 overall pick (TOR)
Brandon Montour
Chris Tierney
Dmitri Orlov
Marco Scandella
T.J. Galiardi

#56 overall pick (WAS)
Vince Dunn
Ryan Donato
Artturi Lehkonen
Johan Larsson

#67 overall pick (MTL)
Adam Lowry

#98 overall pick (MTL)
Mike Reilly
Craig Smith

#100 overall pick (EDM)
Miles Wood
Chris Wideman

#129 overall pick (MTL)
Jamie Benn

#160 overall pick (MTL)
Josh Manson


First round there's like a good chance we will get an NHL player potential star.
Second round is also valuable but don't expect superstars.
Beyond third round is a crap shot.

You forgot at 100, Victor Mete.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Same for Washington.

Except I like Washington & hate the Leafs, so it makes me happy that them losing in the 1st round means a better draft pick for us. Win - win really.

I wouldn't mind a Caps late second anyway.

 

[The Great Weal]

I can definitely see us getting another 1st in some way

 

[Redux91]

As of tonight
without knowing the first round lottery

we pick: players who were picked at this position in the past 10 years.

#5 overall pick (MTL)
Elias Pettersson
Olli Juolevi
Noah Hanifin
Michael Dal Colle
Elias Lindholm
Morgan Rielly
Ryan Strome
Nino Niederreiter
Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Karl Alzner

#36 overall pick (MTL)
Adam Clendening
Alex Petrovic

#39 overall pick (CHI)
Alex DeBrincat
John Gibson
Jakob Silfverberg

#55 overall pick (TOR)
Brandon Montour
Chris Tierney
Dmitri Orlov
Marco Scandella
T.J. Galiardi

#56 overall pick (WAS)
Vince Dunn
Ryan Donato
Artturi Lehkonen
Johan Larsson

#67 overall pick (MTL)
Adam Lowry

#98 overall pick (MTL)
Mike Reilly
Craig Smith

#100 overall pick (EDM)
Miles Wood
Chris Wideman

#129 overall pick (MTL)
Jamie Benn

#160 overall pick (MTL)
Josh Manson


First round there's like a good chance we will get an NHL player potential star.
Second round is also valuable but don't expect superstars.
Beyond third round is a crap shot.

You just HAD to throw in Lolzner eh... lol

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

hawks lost

 

[The Great Weal]

Tied with oilers, but they have one less row.

 

[montreal]

was pissed when I saw that the hawks tied it up, now just need them to lose tomorrow vs Jets

 

[Goldenhands]

Tied with oilers, but they have one less row.

Oilers should win that last one at home while Hawks have no chance at Winniped if they dress their full roster..