The Nylander Chronicles Part XXI - Legal Drinking Age in the US Version

[ToneDog]

At this point, everything that needed to be said, has and on multiple occasions. Personally I am now in wait mode to see how this ends.

 

[Not My Tempo]

So Willy's holding out on the Austrian team as well now eh?

/s

 

[Gary Nylund]

The counter-argument would be:

1) There's a lot of smoke from different places, and some of those are actually reliable, unlike Dreger.
2) The comments in media has fit that picture. If it was Leafs coming in low and Willy camp being reasonable, I'd think we would hear Gross in media. Their silence indicates they have nothing to win by getting their side out there.

That all makes sense but it still sounds like speculation and raises a few questions:

- who are these reliable sources you mention?
- have they mentioned specific numbers?
- have they said who they got these numbers from?
- did they mention numbers before Dreger admitted he was full of crap and no numbers had been leaked?

 

[LeafFever]

I have a feeling Willy will sign soon with the Leafs.

 

[ottomaddox]

LOL. I posted what I read/heard myself in the media so I know it's true. If you choose not to believe me that's fine but I know perfectly well what I read and heard. Dreger was full of crap and he admitted it. Perhaps you'd like to tell us what Sportsnet listed as their source, or did they even say? It wouldn't surprise me a bit if they said something like "what we've been hearing is ..." and their source was in fact Dreger.

You're an ultimate cheerleader for sure. This is textbook.

Doug MacLean has no sources and is terrible.

Dreger has no sources and is terrible.

LeBrun has no sources and is terrible.

TSN makes things up.

Sportsnet makes things up.

Bob Mackenzie has no sources and is terrible...




Go on .We're listening.

Meanwhile Toronto and Nylander still haven't come to an agreement.

 

[StevenB]

At this point, everything that needed to be said, has and on multiple occasions. Personally I am now in wait mode to see how this ends.

I haven’t even read through the Nylander threads since like the 8th one. There’s no point it’s just people saying the exact same things over and over

 

[Nineteen67]

Agreed. I don't follow the media that closely but I think you'd have to track it over time to see how credible the various people are but my general impression is that overall, I wouldn't put too much stock into what they way.

A good example is your "What I'm hearing" - I always think hearing from who, your cat? I think it's much more credible when they say "I heard from a GM in the Western conference" or something like that but when they don't even hint at who their source is, it's just noise to me.

If you are looking for attribution, you’re not going to get any. They are not talking on the record with their sources, hence there are no quotation marks.

Early on there were no leaks and we had no information, however, as time passes, we start to hear little tidbits. Could it be a strategy from one side?

 

[ottomaddox]

That all makes sense but it still sounds like speculation and raises a few questions:

- who are these reliable sources you mention?
- have they mentioned specific numbers?
- have they said who they got these numbers from?
- did they mention numbers before Dreger admitted he was full of crap and no numbers had been leaked?

Who are your sources?

 

[Walshy7]

LOL. I posted what I read/heard myself in the media so I know it's true. If you choose not to believe me that's fine but I know perfectly well what I read and heard. Dreger was full of crap and he admitted it. Perhaps you'd like to tell us what Sportsnet listed as their source, or did they even say? It wouldn't surprise me a bit if they said something like "what we've been hearing is ..." and their source was in fact Dreger.

sportsnets insider to report that was Kypreos.

enough said

 

[StevenB]

You're an ultimate cheerleader for sure. This is textbook.

Doug MacLean has no sources and is terrible.

Dreger has no sources and is terrible.

LeBrun has no sources and is terrible.

TSN makes things up.

Sportsnet makes things up.

Bob Mackenzie has no sources and is terrible...




Go on .We're listening.

Meanwhile Toronto and Nylander still haven't come to an agreement.

The media is usually reliable but in terms of numbers being thrown out the only person who ever threw out a number was Dreger and it wasn’t sourced, it was just what he thought was a possibility. Nylander could be asking for 6, or he could be asking for 10. We still don’t know

 

[Walshy7]

You're an ultimate cheerleader for sure. This is textbook.

Doug MacLean has no sources and is terrible.

Dreger has no sources and is terrible.

LeBrun has no sources and is terrible.

TSN makes things up.

Sportsnet makes things up.

Bob Mackenzie has no sources and is terrible...




Go on .We're listening.

Meanwhile Toronto and Nylander still haven't come to an agreement.

outside of Lebrun and Mackenzie all you're other examples are 100% right

 

[StevenB]

The media is usually reliable but as far as contract numbers being reported, the only person who ever threw out a number was Dreger and it wasn’t sourced, it was just what he thought was a possibility. Nylander could be asking for 6, or he could be asking for 10. We still don’t know

 

[MyBudJT]

sportsnets insider to report that was Kypreos.

enough said

Johnson, Kypreos and Freidman are all on the same page... but you can choose to ignore that if you'd like.

 

[justafan22]

I don't doubt he's signing, but if it's a bridge deal, it just kicks the can down the road

 

[Walshy7]

I don't doubt he's signing, but if it's a bridge deal, it just kicks the can down the road

at this point that's just where we are at. Cant get him long term, just get him even if its the same problem in 3 or 4 years

 

[ottomaddox]

The media is usually reliable but in terms of numbers being thrown out the only person who ever threw out a number was Dreger and it wasn’t sourced, it was just what he thought was a possibility. Nylander could be asking for 6, or he could be asking for 10. We still don’t know

This is factually untrue. Doug MacLean said "over 8" on Hockey Central.

 

[Al14]

So Willy's holding out on the Austrian team as well now eh?

/s

And so he should! They're offering nothing but peanuts and chocolate!

 

[ULF_55]

Pretty sure I heard the Leafs come out and say they want the players to take a discount like Shanahan claims to have done in Detroit.

Was I the only one watching that night?

Discount ≈ Lowball

 

[Bloomberg]

Can Nylander's agent speak with other teams since Nylander is a restricted free agent? If so, I wouldn't be surprised is a team offered him 8 mil for 8 years, and he's agent is trying to set up a trade?

 

[ottomaddox]

outside of Lebrun and Mackenzie all you're other examples are 100% right

I didn't use the sarcasm emoji because I give people more credit than that.

I am not stating those things as being true. I am stating those things only because I have read attitudes like that by HF Leafs fans before. They are quick to discredit anything outside of what a cheerleader would stand for.

 

[DarkKnight]

So Nylander has left the team, wonder why? Good feeling!

 

[StevenB]

This is factually untrue. Doug MacLean said "over 8" on Hockey Central.

Did he have a source? Cause again, if not, I’ve never seen somebody state that they heard it from someone close to the situation or something like that.

 

[Nooodles]

Here is one beutiful, meaningful feedback from one of our insiders:



Thank you very much, you might as well tweet the sky is blue.

I'm so happy they exist. What would we do without them.

 

[Gary Nylund]

You're an ultimate cheerleader for sure. This is textbook.

Doug MacLean has no sources and is terrible.

Dreger has no sources and is terrible.

LeBrun has no sources and is terrible.

TSN makes things up.

Sportsnet makes things up.

Bob Mackenzie has no sources and is terrible...

Go on .We're listening.

Meanwhile Toronto and Nylander still haven't come to an agreement.

LOL. The only person I mentioned was Dreger, no need to get hysterical.

If you are looking for attribution, you’re not going to get any. They are not talking on the record with their sources, hence there are no quotation marks.

Early on there were no leaks and we had no information, however, as time passes, we start to hear little tidbits. Could it be a strategy from one side?

Could be I guess. That's like saying maybe which means that maybe not is also implied.

Pretty sure I heard the Leafs come out and say they want the players to take a discount like Shanahan claims to have done in Detroit.

Was I the only one watching that night?

Discount ≈ Lowball

Yup, I heard what Shanahan said. It's funny that this 8m stuff may be true but there has been no confirmation. What Shanahan said on the other hand comes straight from the source and thus can be taken as fact. So why is everyone ignoring what Shanahan said and instead repeating this media "smoke" over and over again?

 

[ACC1224]

Can Nylander's agent speak with other teams since Nylander is a restricted free agent? If so, I wouldn't be surprised is a team offered him 8 mil for 8 years, and he's agent is trying to set up a trade?

Impossible