THE Fire Torts Thread

[Ice9]

I Like Torts and would thrive in his system but it's over. Organization will be boxed in and like it or not coaches are the first in the sacrificial lamb line.

 

[DJA]

I am almost to the point where I think we need a "Fire the Franchise" thread.

None of this is fun anymore and I am a day one STH.

I’m pretty much to this point. If we miss the playoffs this season (with our best team EVAR!!!! Zomg!) , and everyone walks, it becomes readily apparent that this franchise will never do anything of consequence. Going to be hard to pay a bit of attention going forward if that happens, not just with CBJ but the NHL in general.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I am almost to the point where I think we need a "Fire the Franchise" thread.

None of this is fun anymore and I am a day one STH.

I’m kinda with you but...

We had ‘fire everyone’ threads back in 12/13, too. We thoroughly investigated Priest and Mr. Mac jr. and what we perceived their role was in the malaise at the time. Those are fair things to question I’m just saying that, while it’s not the kind of history you want to have, we’ve been low like this before.

 

[213 Sentinel]

I’m kinda with you but...

We had ‘fire everyone’ threads back in 12/13, too. We thoroughly investigated Priest and Mr. Mac jr. and what we perceived their role was in the malaise at the time. Those are fair things to question I’m just saying that, while it’s not the kind of history you want to have, we’ve been low like this before.

I remember that well. However, was the roster this strong back then? That's the real crime here.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I remember that well. However, was the roster this strong back then? That's the real crime here.

I agree and was thinking about my post early in yesterday's GDT about why this current sitch is more aggravating. So yeah, just offering some context to the "fire the whole org" thing than anything.

 

[WickedPegJets]

I am new on this Blue Jackets Board so whose brilliant idea was it to alternate Goalie Bob every other game and in the games he wasn't going to start, he was not on the bench but high up in the press box? Did Torts say he wanted Bob rested for the playoffs? What playoffs when this offensive challenged team went from three points up on the Canadiens to currently one point in back of them!

 

[Monk]

I am new on this Blue Jackets Board so whose brilliant idea was it to alternate Goalie Bob every other game and in the games he wasn't going to start, he was not on the bench but high up in the press box? Did Torts say he wanted Bob rested for the playoffs? What playoffs when this offensive challenged team went from three points up on the Canadiens to currently one point in back of them!

Bob was/is injured.

 

[KJ Dangler]

Pretty much a given, the jackets fire Torts, they go on a big run to finish the season. Nearly every team blows up after canning the coach. WTF are you waiting for Jarmo. No way in hell this team should be in a fight for the last playoff spot. They are honestly one of the most skilled teams in the east.

 

[Madifer]

Pretty much a given, the jackets fire Torts, they go on a big run to finish the season. Nearly every team blows up after canning the coach. WTF are you waiting for Jarmo. No way in hell this team should be in a fight for the last playoff spot. They are honestly one of the most skilled teams in the east.

It should had been done after the loss to Edmonton a few weeks ago.

This team is not going anywhere and the season is over.

Cya all in October

 

[WickedPegJets]

Ever since Torts publicly humiliated Artemi Panarin by telling the press media that he crapped his pants and that was why he missed that game, the pending UFA has played like sh*t.

 

[We Want Ten]

I am almost to the point where I think we need a "Fire the Franchise" thread.

None of this is fun anymore and I am a day one STH.

I think in part a lot of fans feel this way. I myself feel like this year was do or die. It's the best shot we have ever had and it feels like we are blowing it.

 

[blahblah]

This "fire the franchise" thing is kind of an interesting development. We're kind of in this weird spot where we barely make it in and then lose in the first round. We seemed more engaged when the team was drafting higher. I feel some of the fatigue and it is echoed in different ways by others. The highs of the deadline with the lows of team getting worse after the moves contributes to this a lot I'm sure.

Mine started sometime last season, I might have seen 25 periods of hockey this season as opposed to watching almost every game until this season.

 

[cbjfan]

This "fire the franchise" thing is kind of an interesting development. We're kind of in this weird spot where we barely make it in and then lose in the first round. We seemed more engaged when the team was drafting higher. I feel some of the fatigue and it is echoed in different ways by others. The highs of the deadline with the lows of team getting worse after the moves contributes to this a lot I'm sure.

Mine started sometime last season, I might have seen 25 periods of hockey this season as opposed to watching almost every game until this season.

I am about the same way. The first few seasons, I went to every single home game and watched every road game live from beginning to end. Today, I go to less than 5 games a year (as a full STH) and will DVR and fast forward through most games in 5-10 minutes. The only reason I keep my season tickets is for the "hope" of a deep playoff run, but that seems as far away now as it did in 2000-2001. It is depressing.

 

[Socks]

I am new on this Blue Jackets Board so whose brilliant idea was it to alternate Goalie Bob every other game and in the games he wasn't going to start, he was not on the bench but high up in the press box? Did Torts say he wanted Bob rested for the playoffs? What playoffs when this offensive challenged team went from three points up on the Canadiens to currently one point in back of them!

Mine. Sorry y’all.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Is he still our coach??

 

[Theo Von]

Is he still our coach??

is the sky blue today in columbus??

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Not 100% sure on Dzingle. His fiancée is an model/influencer and golfer. So hard to tell if they will want to be here long term with her ambitions. Yes he has ties to OSU and that helps and yes there are some great golf courses here in central ohio so it's possible but I wouldn't count on him wanting to be here.

Duchene will want to win. I tend to agree firing torts may help retain him, but at same time he may want greener pastures.

Just to clarify, the term social media influencer needs to go away. All it means is that you are hot and have an instagram account. As far as her golf situation, I think the only thing she is involved in that I have seen is a Fox Sports show with Jimmy Hanlin and he is based out of Cleveland.

 

[majormajor]

I've wanted to can Torts for a while, but I've wondered if it's kind of pointless so late in the year. But in today's interview with Jarmo, Portzline mentioned that Lamoriello did this for the Devils, firing coaches in the final weeks twice. The first time they did it, they won the cup, the second time they went to the second round. Those were pretty good Devils teams that were just underperforming. I tend to think the same of this Jackets squad - it's the best, most complete roster this team has ever iced and it should be much better than this.

Of course Lamoriello's moves came up in the context of Jarmo saying he wouldn't "pull a Lamoriello", so that stinks.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

What will be Torts’ biggest failure as an NHL head coach? This roster missing the playoffs, or the Vancouver disaster?

 

[DJA]

What will he Torts’ biggest failure as an NHL head coach? This roster missing the playoffs, or the Vancouver disaster?

If he leads this roster to a 9th place finish he should be fired on the spot and never work in the NHL again.

 

[majormajor]

What will be Torts’ biggest failure as an NHL head coach? This roster missing the playoffs, or the Vancouver disaster?

This one. Vancouver was a bad roster that he made worse. This Jackets' roster could have actually done some damage in the playoffs.

If he leads this roster to a 9th place finish he should be fired on the spot and never work in the NHL again.

He should have been fired weeks ago, but he'll also get another job. He led this club to a 108 pt season in his first full season here, that's what GM's are going to think about when they think about hiring him.

 

[gocbj]

For players it isn't a year it is a career. Guess what another term for uninspired hockey would be...not trying. Why not try? See the title of this thread.

Have discussions with former athletes from any sport at any level in your find that fans care a lot more about reaching the post season than players do. It's just no professional athlete or anybody currently playing whatever ever admit that because it would obviously be the kiss of death

That does not mean that our players don't want to win the Stanley cup. It does however mean that a guy like PLD may hate John tortorella so bad that he has one point in the past however many games

And the next guy and the next guy...

And by the way, jarmo knows this too. Maybe our best chance to keep panarin in in the off season is to have a reason to fire torts

 

[EspenK]

I'm 99.9% he finishes the season. I think his future with the team has to be seriously evaluated by Jarmo et al after the season. If his attitude in press conferences is what he is feeding the team he has to go.

With B&B presumed gone and Duchene and Dzingel(?) question marks I think the coach going forward has to be a guy who can get the best out of a rebuilding team and take advantage of a limited number of top prospects.

I don't know who I'd replace him with, I'll leave that to the experts, but I think a younger guy who can relate to the young players while not losing the vets is the key. First and foremost the guy has to be able to install an offensive system that minimizes "safe is death" and can take advantage of guys like Cam, Duchene, PLD, Anderson, OB, Texier(next season?), Bemstrom (when he comes over), Robinson, Stenlund.

Bottom line Torts should be replaced.

 

[Fred Glover]

This franchise IMO will not be paying a coach who they signed to a two year extension not to coach next year. I believe he will stay. He may be fired later next year but he survives this year.

 

[majormajor]

Have discussions with former athletes from any sport at any level in your find that fans care a lot more about reaching the post season than players do. It's just no professional athlete or anybody currently playing whatever ever admit that because it would obviously be the kiss of death

I'm going to call BS on this one. I'm sure some players feel that way but in hockey I think the majority are much more driven towards winning. I think it's the height of hubris for a fan to ever think they want it more badly than the player does. You might think that they don't care if the play doesn't go the way you want it to, but there's two teams playing and you have no idea how badly they have to want it just to come out even.