The Athletic's article questioning favorite player's performance

[heysmilinstrange]

i just want to know why last year, when Malkin was lighting up the league, you weren’t on here making threads and posting good articles and analytics about him showing how great he was doing...I think you deserve to have all your threads closed...

Get him, Andy!

 

[TKalltheTime]

Your conclusion from reading @Jesse's article was that Malkin is broken.

@Jesse specifically concluded otherwise.

That said, I do appreciate that specifically citing @Jesse's conclusion to his article to question your narrative driven interpretation of his article may hurt your feelings and for that I do sincerely apologize.

EDIT: I do have to add this. This whole Super Genius Junior Junior angle you're working. It's not too bad.

Haha, you just know this guy has a plethora of tweets like “...freedom of speech is dead!” “...what happened to free speech?!” All while completely not knowing what “freedom of speech” actually means or entails so edgy

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

It’s just great that “Russian bad!” lives on.

 

[JRS91]

I can pretty much guarantee that if Sullivan moved Guentzel down with Malkin and Zucker up with Crosby that both would produce fine.

 

[The Old Master]

KIRK MAN BAD

(and lazy)

(and broken)

thanks kirk. i was starting to feel all alone.

 

[ronduguayshair]

I can pretty much guarantee that if Sullivan moved Guentzel down with Malkin and Zucker up with Crosby that both would produce fine.

So is it the linemates fault or the coach?

holy excuse mongering with a net

 

[ronduguayshair]

3 hours no comment from the experts. Wonder why?

 

[EightyOne]

3 hours no comment from the experts. Wonder why?

Because it's an illtimed line change that resulted in exactly nothing?

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

Because we don’t take you seriously.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I was probably talking about him being ineffective during the past playoffs (what really matters). Then look what happened.

So last year you didn't care how good Geno was in the regular season because only playoffs matter, but this year you care how he looks the first 6 games of the regular season?

You can see why people might question your motives, right?

 

[radapex]

I'll say the same thing I said about concerns about Dumoulin -- give them 10 games (4 more) before it's panic time. Who knows what kind of an impact the lack of a camp and pre-season has on guys early on...

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

So last year you didn't care how good Geno was in the regular season because only playoffs matter, but this year you care how he looks the first 6 games of the regular season?

You can see why people might question your motives, right?

I've also heard that maybe the guy has been a PPG+ in every playoffs barring like two. And much of the time even one of their more committed forwards, structurally. But IDK Russian bad and stuff.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

Evgeni Malkin's slow start and the troubling truth: Marshall

Uh Oh. The video doesn't look good (see replay of Ranger's goal #2) and now the number aren't looking good by the number people (Jesse Marshall).

Here's a highlight:

If you think this makes me happy as someone who has questioned and has been critical to favorite player for over 3 years...It doesn't.

A broken uninspired #71 will sink this organization. Not the coaching. Not the GM.

Way to early to worry about that. How about trying different linemates first. Malkin had one of the best PPG's in the NHL last season. Put him with Guentzel and Rust and then evaluate Malkin because last season with them he was as good as any forward in the NHL. People making much too much out of 6 game start with no preseason games.

 

[ronduguayshair]

So last year you didn't care how good Geno was in the regular season because only playoffs matter, but this year you care how he looks the first 6 games of the regular season?

You can see why people might question your motives, right?

It sure looks like a continuation to me.

 

[ronduguayshair]

If favorite player has a breakout game please don’t use this thread to attack to author of the Athletic piece.

You should be able to criticize star players when they’re not playing to their contract.

 

[KIRK]

If favorite player has a breakout game please don’t use this thread to attack to author of the Athletic piece.

You should be able to criticize star players when they’re not playing to their contract.

Nobody is attacking the author of the Athletic piece. He wrote an intelligent article with an intelligent conclusion. The only thing anyone here is attacking is your narrative driven misrepresentation of what the author wrote. I can understand how a Super Genius Junior Junior might not catch the difference, and again I apologize on behalf of everyone for having offended you by calling you out for misrepresenting the conclusions of the Athletic article.

 

[ronduguayshair]

Nobody is attacking the author of the Athletic piece. He wrote an intelligent article with an intelligent conclusion. The only thing anyone here is attacking is your narrative driven misrepresentation of what the author wrote. I can understand how a Super Genius Junior Junior might not catch the difference, and again I apologize on behalf of everyone for having offended you by calling you out for misrepresenting the conclusions of the Athletic article.

hard to misrepresent when you post a quote and video from the article. Learn to take criticism of your favorite player.

 

[KIRK]

hard to misrepresent when you post a quote and video from the article. Learn to take criticism of your favorite player.

Your Conclusion:

A broken uninspired #71 will sink this organization. Not the coaching. Not the GM.

@Jesse QUOTE:

"This isn’t to say that Malkin is shunning his defensive responsibilities. I don’t see a lot of evidence of that on video, though there is some, which is true for every player at this juncture. What I see is a player desperate to generate offense and willing to try just about anything to do so. These defensive issues are less tied to an absence of defense and more about a desire to create an attack that often comes at the detriment of the defense."

If you don't comprehend how your conclusion is a misrepresentation of what the author of the article wrote, then I'd be happy to sign you up for an ESL class that I teach in my spare time.

 

[ronduguayshair]

Yeah man I quoted a portion of the article and my opinion you know was not in quotes.

stop wasting my time. Put me on mute. It’s sad for you.

 

[JRS91]

So is it the linemates fault or the coach?

holy excuse mongering with a net

Both, but it's more on the coach.

That's not an excuse, it's a fact. Zucker didn't work with Malkin back in August, why on Earth would it work now? Guentzel, Malkin and Rust were a great line. Zucker worked well with Crosby. It makes absolute sense. Even if Sullivan swapped Kapanen and Rust, it'd work. I'd have no issue with Rust moving with Crosby so long as Zucker did.

 

[EightyOne]

Yeah man I quoted a portion of the article and my opinion you know was not in quotes.

stop wasting my time. Put me on mute. It’s sad for you.

One. You waste all our time.

Two. When posters are confused, they should be helped.

 

[Gurglesons]

This thread gets better and better.

 

[ronduguayshair]

This thread gets better and better.

Well maybe favorite player should become a youtube star because the sure does like to create content.

Here he is with another youtube content creator:



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[ronduguayshair]

The 2-0 "attempt" was so embarrassing the official Penguins youtube highlight omits it.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

Why is this thread still active?