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Game winning goals this year
draisaitl 9 (league leader)
Mackinnon 4
that’s 10 game winning goals from Draisaitl now
Game winning goals this year
draisaitl 9 (league leader)
Mackinnon 4
Draisatial AINECAt this point it's MacKinnon, followed by Pastrnak and Panarin.
What about McDavid or Draisaitl? The fact that people would argue for both of them kind at the same time of defeats the point of being the MVP. Before McDavid went down he was the favourite according to HF (along with every other trophy in existence apparently). After McDavid goes down all of a sudden Draisaitl is the guy? Give me a break. Sure, they can score a lot but when you put up 53/44 even strength points and are still a minus by a decent chunk it's not a great look. It doesn't matter if you score 2 if you're on the ice for 2-3 against.
Right, MacKinnon and Pasta are the only good players on their team. There is nobody on either team say, in the lead for the Calder
The Hart trophy is so flawed. Literally every voter of the award has ignored the definition of the trophy for so long that it's become "best player" when the NHL already has a best player award. It's so silly. Making the playoffs should have no bearing on the outcome of the vote.
Yes, the Avalanche have good players yet they were kept afloat by MacKinnon while half the team was hurt for a good chunk of the season (including the likes of Rantanen, Landeskog, Makar, and Kadri). The fact that they aren't having to play catch-up is solely because MacKinnon stepped up and dragged the team to wins. He was getting heavily double shifted during that time just so the other lines were a threat.
What I'm saying is that people were arguing for McDavid right up until he got hurt and they were claiming it wasn't close. Then everyone went right for his teammate and started claiming that he should win and of course it wasn't close. It doesn't make sense when it comes to picking a guy who is supposed to be a clear-cut MVP. Oilers fans lost their guy so they've decided that Draisaitl was the MVP all along.
Oilers fans have been saying Leon has been their MVP all year and been better than McDavid. Not sure where you got your info from but it sure wasn't from the people who watch the Oilers the most.Yes, the Avalanche have good players yet they were kept afloat by MacKinnon while half the team was hurt for a good chunk of the season (including the likes of Rantanen, Landeskog, Makar, and Kadri). The fact that they aren't having to play catch-up is solely because MacKinnon stepped up and dragged the team to wins. He was getting heavily double shifted during that time just so the other lines were a threat.
What I'm saying is that people were arguing for McDavid right up until he got hurt and they were claiming it wasn't close. Then everyone went right for his teammate and started claiming that he should win and of course it wasn't close. It doesn't make sense when it comes to picking a guy who is supposed to be a clear-cut MVP. Oilers fans lost their guy so they've decided that Draisaitl was the MVP all along.
Drai quickest to 90 in 30 years. Mark Messier the last person to do it. He would be my vote
Drai quickest to 90 in 30 years. Mark Messier the last person to do it. He would be my vote
10 game winning goals in 58 games.
What's the record ?
Yeah, Oilers aren't going to have a lot of sympathy for fans lamenting about arbitrary rules defining who should be a Hart winner.The point disparity argument screwed Mackinnon out of one Hart. That same argument should give it to him this time.
I think he meant fastest Oiler.That certainly would not have been my guess. Is that based on date?
I think he meant fastest Oiler.
10 game winning goals as well, next highest in the league at 5 amongst Hart candidates
It just doesn’t sit right with me that if Luongo played like 1-2 more games for the Panthers in 2017-18, they would have overtaken the Devils for the last WC spot, and Hall would have gone from winning the Hart trophy to likely not even finishing top-3 in voting. The implication that regular season accomplishments are worthless if you miss the playoffs bothers me too. It’s not Jack Eichel’s fault the rest of his team sucks, and a season like he’s having should be more appreciated. The NHL just isn’t a league where a player can do it themselves, skaters only play at max 1/3 of the available ice-time in a full season, and goalies can’t score goals.
Honestly they should just make a second Hart trophy for MVPs that miss the playoffs. Name it after some other historic player. IMO players should be ranked in the order of wins contributed to their teams, maybe then compare that to the combined wins contributed by their teammates. Honestly if it just goes to the Art Ross winner every year, so what? Why shouldn't it? Forwards are the most valuable players, and there's nothing more valuable than scoring (except of course preventing scoring but goalies have to have miraculous seasons to win a Hart trophy).
GWG by itself is a meaningless stat; that goal could be #2 in the first period of a 7-1 blowout, or it could be the one that breaks a tie with 32 seconds left in regulation and they count the same. It's like when "first goals" were touted as a thing (and some places still track them); it says nothing about whether that goal was really meaningful to the outcome of a game.10 game winning goals as well, next highest in the league at 5 amongst Hart candidates