The All Encompassing Tank/Rebuild/Tankers GDT Thread III

[Ratboy]

 

[garce]

The only thing I would to object to when I see it on this forum. Is when someone posts a player is untouchable or shouldn't be moved. The only player that I will agree to this is Rielly. As for any of the players on this roster, anyone who says they are untouchable or shouldn't be moved should be asked why? It is a complacent failed core and support players.

Yup, Rielly amd thus years #1 should be the only untouchables till next years training camp, unless dealing the pick means moving up.

 

[Gary Batman]

****ing Oilers!

You've got to be kidding me.

 

[Beleafer4]

I hate that term, "untouchable".

There is no such thing, only price tags.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

The new GDT

Got the Leafs on my first try.

 

[Caesium]

Edmonton's tank is too stronk, rito nerf pls.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I hate that term, "untouchable".

There is no such thing, only price tags.

Agree.

It would take a lot to move Rielly right now, all things considered, but for the right price he goes too.

 

[Gary Batman]

Does anyone know how exactly does NHL get the % from the lottery balls?

As in how many balls would be there and what combination they'd use?

 

[garce]

I hate that term, "untouchable".

There is no such thing, only price tags.

Sorry Mr.Ness, players or picks which I would not barter?

 

[Caesium]

Does anyone know how exactly does NHL get the % from the lottery balls?

As in how many balls would be there and what combination they'd use?

Fourteen balls, numbered 1 to 14, are placed in a lottery machine. The machine expels four balls, forming a series of numbers. The four-digit series resulting from the expulsion of the balls is matched against a probability chart that divides the possible combinations among the 14 participating clubs.

Source: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658503

 

[FlareKnight]

I hate that term, "untouchable".

There is no such thing, only price tags.

I think it's fine. If you are a good team you should have guys you'd never think of moving. During those conference final runs I never would have said "I'd be fine trading Sundin for [something]." We're a bad team so nothing should be untouchable. But if you are a good team then you can get attached to the guys and not want them gone.

And of course there are guys that are untouchable. The Pens would literally trade Crosby for nothing. The value to that franchise is beyond just an amazing player. It's an existence that literally saved the franchise from having to be moved.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

man you can't win as a leaf fan...yes you want a tank...but knowing our record we won't tank properly...and land again in the 15th spot or 10. not going to be the top 3 even though this draft is damn deep and i've been following it...well i always follow them haha. top 3 another echleon and then super stars i guess till #8ish...we are currently at what? 10?

 

[Pi]

Source: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658503

So 14C4 combinations? I only read the quote.

By that, 14C4 = 1001 possible combinations. If he Leafs end up with 8.5%, they get roughly 85 combinations.

 

[Trapper]

man you can't win as a leaf fan...yes you want a tank...but knowing our record we won't tank properly...and land again in the 15th spot or 10. not going to be the top 3 even though this draft is damn deep and i've been following it...well i always follow them haha. top 3 another echleon and then super stars i guess till #8ish...we are currently at what? 10?

Half of it is tank. The other half is moving on from this core.

 

[Pi]

Half of it is tank. The other half is moving on from this core.

Tankers want to move on from the core too.

I want a high pick and sweeping changes across the board.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

man you can't win as a leaf fan...yes you want a tank...but knowing our record we won't tank properly...and land again in the 15th spot or 10. not going to be the top 3 even though this draft is damn deep and i've been following it...well i always follow them haha. top 3 another echleon and then super stars i guess till #8ish...we are currently at what? 10?

Currently 24th just one point ahead of NJ and 3 ahead of Columbus who has 3 games in hand. Another week or two of this losing and we're looking at the 5th pick.

 

[Gary Batman]

So 14C4 combinations? I only read the quote.

By that, 14C4 = 1001 possible combinations. If he Leafs end up with 8.5%, they get roughly 85 combinations.

That is what I got too. Only thing is that article is from 2013 when NHL used different odds, compared to 2015 where lottery percentage has changed.

 

[Caesium]

So 14C4 combinations? I only read the quote.

By that, 14C4 = 1001 possible combinations. If he Leafs end up with 8.5%, they get roughly 85 combinations.

I think it's 14P4, so 24024 combinations.

 

[Trapper]

Currently 24th just one point ahead of NJ and 3 ahead of Columbus who has 3 games in hand. Another week or two of this losing and we're looking at the 5th pick.

The 5th pick gets us one of Strome/Marner. Start putting the Kessel/Phaneuf deals together now and move out the UFAs.

 

[Leafidelity]

top 3 another echleon and then super stars i guess till #8ish...we are currently at what? 10?

We're at 7th with games in hand on 5th and 6th

 

[Hero]

Currently have a 1% chance of 3rd last, 6% for 4th last and 13% for 5th last.

Looking pretty good for sliding down, 20% chance of being a bottom five team.

 

[Beleafer4]

I think it's fine. If you are a good team you should have guys you'd never think of moving. During those conference final runs I never would have said "I'd be fine trading Sundin for [something]." We're a bad team so nothing should be untouchable. But if you are a good team then you can get attached to the guys and not want them gone.

And of course there are guys that are untouchable. The Pens would literally trade Crosby for nothing. The value to that franchise is beyond just an amazing player. It's an existence that literally saved the franchise from having to be moved.

Yes I would consider trading anyone and yes I would trade Crosby. Let's say kings offered

Quick, Kopitar, Doughty, Toffoli

For

Crosby, Fleury, Kunitz

You wouldn't do it?

 

[Yorkshire Leaf]

Has there ever been a case of the players tanking against the wishes of the management, to try and facilitate trades away from a team that they have lost faith in. It just seems that if the owners of a The Leafs are as described by a lot of people on here they would not sanction the team tanking, the management seem to be hanging onto their jobs by a thread so would not sanction tanking, could it be player lead?

 

[dubey]

Ran the simulation and this is what I get:

I like those odds

many of us know your post history and like I said, you ain't fooling anyone.

Speaking of post history

 

[garce]

Tankers want to move on from the core too.

I want a high pick and sweeping changes across the board.

I want to keep Kessel, unless blown away by a offer, and Rielly . That is all.